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YouTube’s best MGS channel returns with an in-depth overview of something virtually no commenter, reviewer, or content creator has caught about Hideo Kojima’s masterpiece, MGSV.
NOTE: Happy New Year! I’m back full time, Boss. Personal stuff/ health stuff prevented me from doing so for too long. You can expect regular uploads again from me – 3/4 per month, posted every Monday.
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“Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes is a third-person stealth action-adventure game developed by Kojima Productions and published by Konami for the Xbox One, PlayStation 4, Xbox 360, and PlayStation 3 on March 18, 2014. It was later digitally published for the PC (via Steam) on December 18, 2014.
The game is a standalone prologue to Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain, setting up the game’s story while introducing players to both the Fox Engine and the new open-world gameplay structure.
Set in 1975, shortly after the events of Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker, players take control of legendary operative Snake (also known as Big Boss, leader of the Militaires Sans Frontières) as he infiltrates a clandestine prison camp in Cuba (known as Camp Omega) under control by U.S. Marines (including a mysterious Special Forces unit known as XOF). With radio assistance from Kazuhira Miller and Huey Emmerich, Snake must find and rescue both MSF member Chico and high-value target Paz.”
https://www.giantbomb.com/metal-gear-solid-v-ground-zeroes/3030-39575/
33 Comments
Wow why havent i seen any video's from you in such a long time
The true is on my summary on my page …go and read it or listen it …. 2 hours will take 🙂
Even though it doesn’t seem intentional, I absolutely appreciate the literary implication that removing the final mission has had for MGSV… it’s a never ending game about never ending combat
Love your work!
THE RETURN OF THE KING
I will always love mgsv ❤️
I like your hypothesis and theory and I accept it I like to see from different perspectives and points of views especially when it comes to The Legacy of MGS. I truly look forward to even more of your content!, Thank you and Happy Year New 2023 May it be an amazing year! 🎉🎆😁😊✌🏻
Snake Rocks
Sounds like a bunch of commie gobbledegook to me
Good Video.
MGSV is sorta like an open-world Siphon Filter game
what is a virtual essay that is not electronic?
well, I didn't get this video… Max Derrat's video, and your video on Ground Zeroes, were more understandable
He played me like a damn fiddle . I really thought jorin was out … thank you for another video Futurasound team !!
there is a problem, sahelanthropus wasnt the first.
Peace Walker, Metal Gear ZEKE
Sorry I didn't understand
whoooooa
"Ocelot" in MGSV and Skullface do share some personality traits and flair, but I'm not sure I see the connection. I put "Ocelot" in scare quotes since his character in V never made any sense to me as the real Ocelot, since it's a mid-continuity ret-con of his personality and temperament.
The new character and acting are great, but we already saw Ocelot in the prequel Snake Eater where he was a younger and less experienced version of the megalomaniacal thrill-seeker we saw in MGS 1 and 2. It doesn't really make sense for him to change his fundamental personality in middle age. I still refuse to acknowledge MGSV Ocelot as the real deal.
Also, wouldn't he be like 75 in MGS4. MF must have been munching nanomachines in between "personal training sessions" with his Frog harem.
I just finished my first replay of the game, spurred on by finding your channel and binging everything. This is the perfect video to tie it all together. Thanks you for the guidance.
Excellent, as always. Gonna need a few more rewatchs for this one, too. Interesting thought of SF being implanted with ocelot 's personality
The story of Metal gear solid 5 is supposed to parallel a tale of revenge the same way Moby Dick does. There are references to Ishmael and Ahab with even your helicopter pilot's name literally being Pequod which are all references to Moby Dick.
It's not a one for one recreation of the story though. For example, snake actually catches his white whale in this tail, AKA skull face.
He doesn't die in the pursuit of this revenge though it could be argued depending on which path you take that he can metaphorically lose himself after getting his revenge. Just something to think about anyway
Everything beside mgs1 and mgs2 is trash. Sorry to say…
What version of Theme Of Solid Snake did you use?
I’m so stoked to see a new video from you 😁 Though I’m going to have start a new PC play through of MGSV now… Thanks for teaching me something new today. I wasn’t aware of the term ex post facto and its a good one to have in the vocabulary quiver.
OMG YOU'RE BACK. Kept us waiting huh.
I hate the XOF, if FOX is the equivalent of the CIA then XOF is the super more secret CIA
The only thing i knew after watching this videos is that mgsv was full of goofy characters and soldiers. But now the story sounds good but the games make it looks awful
Babe wake up futurasound posted yet another banger of a video
Well when you understand that MGSV is a void in the lore being told by the literal actions of each player. So basically Big Boss did – in the 1980s. That – was the literal actions of the player in the open world of V.
And the player and Big Boss are literally you. The person with the controller in hand.
Now that you understand that, you play Vs story again. Now you get the cheap call backs (or forwards in this case) is the game telling you. You and your actions wrote this into code. And it's repeated later by the Patriot AI copying the blueprint created by the players.
However that also means that YOU the player are the person that is burned alive by our beloved Solid Snake.
So we got lifted high and spiked right into the ground in the same instant.
It's the constant pondering of what the individual players in their roles write into code. And the later progenitor surpass or not.
V was one hell of a puzzle, however once you're in the puzzle it really is what a fan of the original games was looking for. And quite the amazing MGS story. Sad that we got left on such a hopeless note. But that's the most MGS shit of all time. These are The Patriots (Konami) and if they did not shut us down by leaving Big Boss (fans, Koji Pro) for dead they would not live up to their own standards.
Us fans watched our favorite series get strung up and murdered right in front of us, while our most anticipated game dropped. Only for everyone to be disappointed by it. Only to find it's meaning years later. Truly The Phantom Pain.
Imo big boss has a way better story overall, it and he offer a far more personal and emotional story, don't get me wrong, solid snake is awesome and I love him, and I love playing as him, theyre both great stories for separate reasons but I terms of letting me become the character and know him in that way. big boss wins.
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You: "what NOBODY UNDERSTANDS about this video game, what has NEVER BEEN TALKED ABOUT BEFORE"
the video: is about absolutely fucking nothing.
You talk like you have a wedge of plastic in your mouth. This is an atrociously written video and you are a loser for making it.
The Metal Gear goat is back
There is only one big boss venom is a hallucination
Ocelot set up the attack on Mother Base in 1975. Skullface had no need or motive to attack Mother Base, nor was he likely present at the attack. Ocelot however, in his lifelong quest to fulfil his mother’s will, had motive to remove the now directionless Big Boss.
At the end of Peace Walker we see Big Boss abandon his own interpretation of the Boss’s will. He no longer believed in the Boss. The hero of GroznyjGrad was gone and instead there was just a mercenary with no direction in his place. Ocelot couldn’t of liked that his idol and the man who was to carry his mother’s legacy had suddenly let it all go. We know both Zero and Sigint were involved in Peace Walker, we don’t know how Ocelot was involved, or even if he was involved. But we do know Ocelot had a long history of secret units (like his own unit in Snake Eater) and we know XOF is a secretive arm of the Patriots and formally part of FOX. We also know they, and Skullface, were not present in Costa Rica. It is my belief that Skullface was enacting his plan to take out Zero during this time and that Ocelot is the one who informed him about Paz (who played a role Ocelot would usually play) and that she knew where Zero was. Ocelot would even promise to deliver Paz and, by extension, Zero to Skullface. For a price.
Big Boss needed to lose MSF, he needed to regain purpose and he needed to become the legendary Naked Snake again, as opposed to some vagabond gun for hire. Ocelot approached Huey, acting as an inspection agency. This ensured he could keep Big Boss off of the base during the attack. Things got out of hand when Big Boss arrived back at base though, ending with the crash that wasn’t supposed to transpire. Skullface wasn’t supposed to try and kill Big Boss via Paz either. Neither of these events factored into Ocelot’s plan.
Ocelot needed Miller out of the picture, however after the botched destruction of Mother Base he couldn’t just have him killed because he would still hold use in the future. That’s why they were separated at the hospital. Ocelot had a golden opportunity to reshape John into the man he should have been. Having Miller around could have ruined the process. Through tapes, hypnotic suggestion, prolonged exposure to ideas in a controlled environment and through Ocelot’s usual methods of drugging and electrotherapy he breaks Big Boss down to the basics, to a canvas he can reshape into the legend he believes Big Boss should be. He kills off the identity of “John” by creating the narrative that he is a separate person.
Miller would be a problem here because he would remind Big Boss of their dream. He could deconstruct Ocelot’s brainwashing of Big Boss. So Ocelot has Miller captured and tortures him severely. We know from MGS and MGS2 that Ocelot was a notorious torturer within the Soviet forces in Afghanistan in the 80s. We know that’s where he got the handle “Shalashaska” and we know he was notorious in the region. We also know the Soviets, with the assistance of the Skulls (a Cipher unit) captured Miller, put a bag over his head, limited his vision with sensual deprivation and then he was tortured for no clear reason. His arm and leg were removed, he was likely reminded constantly about the people who died, who he let down. Ocelot needed to break Miller, to turn him insane. Miller would serve as motivation for the newly revamped Big Boss and would also be key in helping drum up troops to follow the legend once more. Money no longer mattered, revenge did. Miller was so broken and vengeful that he had no inclination to look at what was going on. He never even questioned what Ocelot was doing on Mother Base or how he had gained so much influence over operations there. He didn’t question why Ocelot’s KGB unit were on the base with them.
Ocelot, for his part, did not want to trigger Big Boss’s memory either. So he behaved completely out of character. He acted like a subordinate to a man he basically had to spoon feed. He spent very little time with the rest of Mother Base’s management team, he took it upon himself to DNA test Eli despite MB having a state of the art medical wing. Ocelot couldn’t risk having “Venom” realise he was the real Big Boss because it would possibly trigger a return to his 1975 outlook.
Ocelot is only ever seen behaving like himself away from Big Boss. In front of him he’s this yes man with little personality. He still held Big Boss’s hand and led him down certain paths. The head trauma Big Boss suffered left him in an already damaged and incoherent state so it wasn’t hard for Ocelot to take control from the background.
For the lie to be complete Ocelot decides to trigger Big Boss’s belief he isn’t the original. After the breakdown over Paz it became clear to Ocelot that he needed to advance the illusion to cement the idea. As far as ‘Venom’ and Miller needed to know, the man who gave up on the Boss was gone, he was off somewhere starting some fruitless adventure as a complete nobody. But he’d left a message for ‘Venom’. “You’re Big Boss, he is the both of us together”. He was no longer Big Boss, rather, Big Boss was no longer John. Big Boss was a story that would unite the world. The way Ocelot believed his mother had wanted. An icon to unify under that didn’t have a nation, a religion, an economic or sociological model. A man who would fight for what he believed in whilst risking his life for others. Not some money driven war criminal, but a hero. Not an enemy of the times like the Big Boss of 1975, but an icon of the times, like the Big Boss who stopped Nuclear annihilation time and again in the 60s and early 70s. Ocelot could never be the man to carry out his mother’s will in the public eye, he was too far gone by the time he understood. But Big Boss could be that person.
We know there was no limit to how far Ocelot would go to see the Boss’s vision realised. Between him and Solid Snake it finally was. Big Boss at the end of everything had regained himself, and probably held onto a bit of his mental doppelganger too. As he made peace with his clone at the end of his life he realised why Ocelot had acted the way he did, and how when his Venom Snake plan fell through Ocelot had decided to put himself through the same ordeal. Ocelot really did carry out the Boss’s will, at the sacrifice of his own name, image, legacy and life. Just like his mother before him.