《聞張淵翔色變？國民黨不評論個案：檢調雙標、押人取供？》【新聞面對面】2025.04.30
Let me start by introducing you to the special guests invited today. The first one on the left is Taipei City Councilor Lin Yanfeng. Hello everyone, senior media person Chen Minfeng. Hello everyone, current affairs commentator Teacher Huang Yizhong. Good night everyone . On the right, I invite you the legislator Ye Yuanzhi. Hello everyone. Taoyuan City Councilor Reserve Major General Beichen. Hello everyone. Senior media person Kang Renjun. Hello everyone. Come to Renjun and take a direct look at the focus of all the media today. One is in Keelung. The other is of course Hualien Fu Kunqi. What mining tax case is there? Will these things have any impact on the extension of the burning ? Especially in Keelung, because it was only the party department involved in the case. Now he is the director of the civil affairs department of the administrative unit. He paid 400,000 yuan in bail and then resigned and was allowed to be punished . The spread of this matter is not just the party department. He is now in the administrative unit. Is it more and more difficult for the Kuomintang to deal with it? I think it may not be just the Kuomintang. Because these times, people have been more skeptical about the fact that you just mentioned that these so-called people from this government department who have public power are involved in the matter of recall , and most of them now seem to I will now talk about the ones that have been investigated by the media or the prosecutors are investigating. The first one is probably in the counties and cities where the Kuomintang is in power . There is no so-called green camp in the counties and cities. So of course it will make everyone think that the first removal is of course the right of the citizens. The Kuomintang like Huang Lujinru said before that it was a citizens’ group and our party headquarters. It has nothing to do with it , but now it seems that the so-called municipal or district party headquarters in several counties and cities have been searched and investigated , and some people have even been detained by this so-called , and some people have been released on bail. For example, in the case of Keelung City Government, the former civil affairs director Zhang Yuanxiang was finally allowed to resign today. I am wondering why he was finally released yesterday. When asked about Xie Guoliang yesterday, he was asked about his 400,000 bail today , and he has actually confessed that he actually used his position as the director of the Civil Affairs Office to obtain people’s personal information and was in contact with the strike group . Do you want the Keelung City Government to consider whether he is suitable for this position? What Xie Guoliang said at that time also said that he would discuss it with everyone. Of course , the transfer result will be made immediately. Today, I don’t have to wait for you to transfer him. He has resigned. I think he should have resigned in the first place. And today’s time is even later. Why? What I’m telling you is that he is quitting the group. At this stage, he will send any collection or get any signature letters. Wherever he sends them, he will send them to the election committee, your election committee. There is a level called what needs to be checked? Because when you hand it over to the Selected Election Committee, the Selected Selected Committee must do the check at the local level. When we talked about Hualien before , didn’t we say that there were household administrators holding a stack of rosters or something ? But Hualien said it was an administrative error. Your administrative error has caused such an uproar from the outside world . Today, during the review process , Your election committee makes the decision, which means I think this is OK. Is this OK? I would like to ask if this paragraph is open and transparent. To be honest, from the past to the present, the election committee’s determination of whether this joint signature is qualified or not is basically after their own internal review . That’s why there is the controversy in Keelung. You said that you checked 26 people and you sued. I told people that more than 110 applications were all unqualified. Where is the judgment of unqualified ? Sorry, I didn’t get your complaint. I said that if you are not qualified, you are not qualified. This is the practice of our current election committee. A good question comes up. Including someone in New Taipei City who said that there are people from the Kuomintang party headquarters involved in the case, and they have also entered the election committee. I am a member of the election committee . There will definitely be doubts from the outside world. Is the list of so-called co-signers you reviewed today sent in by the strikers or the melons and plums you stuffed in? Not to mention that this incident in Keelung is even more exaggerated. I actually object to what Xie Guoliang said yesterday. When he was questioned, he said that this is the investigation and search. He said this is a There is a problem of forging documents. Forging documents is less than 5 years old. He thinks why there should be a proportion of this state in the investigation at this stage. I would like to ask the director of the Civil Affairs Office . The case he is involved in today is forging documents, isn’t it? He is a public servant. Yes, the political affairs officer. He is basically a public servant. When he involves the so-called According to the current law, the Personal Data Protection Law will increase the sentence by one-half for anyone who is a public servant . Mayor Xie, when you were answering this matter yesterday, did you consider that he is the director of your civil affairs department today? So what is even more terrifying to the outside world is that you know how detailed our civil affairs system is. You know that our civil affairs personnel are really very sophisticated. Thank you, I want to speak for the civil affairs staff. We generally think that civil servants get off work when their time is up. There is no civil affairs. Isn’t it because there are birth registrations and death registrations every day, right? They have to run the computer report again after work every day. After running it again, they have to upload this data to the Ministry of the Interior. Because we only have it so that the government can have it. The latest and most correct roster of personnel every day . Now here comes the problem. I have a civil affairs office that can make a big splash in the recall. It is still co-signing and even now it seems that it is in the proposal stage. If the proposal unit says today that I have already collected the strike group and sent it here for you to check, you said that I will go to transfer the household registration information at this time. I think it is a big deal. Of course, your methods or other things will still be scrutinized. But when he is still in the co-signing stage of the recall proposal, please ask the Civil Affairs Office to go into the information , get the information , and then go through the group strike group to pass this information on. Have you delivered this information to others , or how will it be proven in court in the end? That is to say, at that stage, you were in contact with the strike group. Can our personal information flow like this? I will talk about what Keelung has become. Do you know that Keelung has become a demonstration area for our party and government’s mutually beneficial exchange platform for personal information? How can an action called civil recall be passed through political parties and then through city government officials? Combine it into three. Is this an understatement like Mayor Xie’s and said that this is a forgery of documents? He only involves forgery of documents. I don’t understand. Xie Guoliang said today that he studied law for 4 years when he was in graduate school . He knows the boundaries of the law very well. Then I really want to ask. Did the director of your Civil Affairs Office do this? He was involved. At what level of law? So I think that in the current process of the entire judicial investigation , why did I just say at the beginning that if today in the status of the entire investigation, for example, today is the result of the strike of the blue committee, the counties and cities in power of the green camp have civil servants involved today , or the strike of the green committee, and then the blue camp, I think that is also Even if the political parties are different, the big problems now are all sorry, so it can’t be called forget it. If there is a violation, it is illegal. The problem now is that today you are all the legislators who want to strike out the green. The result is that the strike group made mistakes in the stage of first-level co-signing , mistakes, deaths , and then copied the roster and copied the roster. I’m sorry. Add two words and it seems that those who are involved now are actually those from the city government , and they are all related to the election committee , and these people related to the election are involved. Until now, I have not seen any statement from the Kuomintang on this matter, because after all, it is Keelung , a county and city governed by your Kuomintang. Don’t you think this is all right? Okay? They are like Lin Kuanyu. They come out to talk, not to focus on individual cases , but to discuss these things. But don’t you feel shuddering? To some extent, this is also an archery target. Anyway, it means to target all these in the opposition. Then they don’t comment on individual cases. That’s it. The host is from Keelung, if I remember correctly. I don’t know if people in Keelung will shudder when you see the whole incident develop like today. Let me give you an example. Lin Peixiang. Lin Peixiang is always a Keelung legislator. Why does he want Zhong Xiaoping to file a lawsuit ? Now the focus of my paragraph is that Lin Peixiang talked about one thing. Anyone who does it without his consent or hurts his reputation or his dignity or whatever… Without his consent, of course he will be unhappy. Should the Kuomintang tell Lin Peixiang that you should not be unhappy ? This is a trivial matter and it is not that serious . That’s why we tell everyone that it’s not so serious. You can’t have double standards to this extent. Lin Peixiang thinks that if there is such a lack of qualifications, he will be very angry. Can you tell everyone about the Kuomintang when this situation occurs in other stages? How will you convince these supporters or what will you say in the future? Convince everyone that we should continue to support the Kuomintang General Renjun just said that Xiaoping originally wanted to go to Keelung to sue Lin Peixiang and said that he did not want to interfere with our affairs. However, Wen Langdong said that he was going to help Zhong Xiaoping do this. And if this whole thing continues, it will be fine because Lin Peixiang is the legislator of the Green Camp. If Lin Peixiang is dismissed, will Lin Peixiang? After meeting with the second level, Zhang Yuanxiang has now called the former director of civil affairs. Xie Guoliang is the mayor of Keelung City. Tong Ziwei has directly named Xie Guoliang. Did you know that you were an accomplice ? If you didn’t know, you were an accomplice. If you didn’t know, it was a major dereliction of duty. You have seen a movie called Beijing Four Young Masters. We don’t have Beijing Four Young Masters in Keelung. But these three are the three major families in Keelung politics. Inside, I don’t know what will happen if this whole thing develops . Of course, there are no four young men in Keelung. There are at least three young men. Do you think Lin Peixiang is considered the number one prominent family in Keelung ? If you look at the political qualifications of his parents, you will know. Zhang Yuanxiang’s father was the mayor of Keelung Zhang Tongrong. The former mayor of Keelung is Xie Guoliang. Needless to say. Xie Guoliang’s family is now the mayor of Keelung City, because like Lin Peixiang, his father, Lin Shuimu, and mother, Xu Shaoping, one is the mayor and the other is a legislator , so they are the three major political families in Keelung . They are definitely the three young masters of the political family, right ? We get along pretty well, that is, after I finish, I switch to you, and after you finish, I switch to him. Anyway, we take turns, so we don’t interfere with each other , and we don’t interfere with each other . Even blood is thicker than water. We are good brothers who exchange posts. So this time Zhang Yuanxiang encountered this situation . Everyone knows that the Director of Civil Affairs is in charge of many things, from the birth registration of children to the public sacrifices after death, everything is under his control , from the sacrifices in palaces and temples to the household registration census of people’s births. So the Civil Affairs Department is really big enough. So if you look at Zhang Yuanxiang, if he admitted it , according to the newspaper, he admitted it. He confessed frankly to what he admitted. I don’t know what he was admitting to, but he said that I helped. If you do the verification, you should wait until the recall group information is handed over. I will do the verification through the local election committee. You can use the method of sending a letter or you can use the computer to test whether the person is alive or dead. This is what you should do. This is the back-end . After the payment is made, the back-end will do it for you instead of me giving you the roster. Can you take a look at these and screen which ones cannot be copied ? Is this an accomplice? Is this an accomplice ? Then I want to tell everyone about this situation. The Kuomintang is in crisis. When the Kuomintang encounters a militia group and wants to launch a general recall, they will immediately jump out and talk about a strike. In fact, everyone thinks this is what Zhu Lilun said or Ling Tao said. The first one talked about the Kuomintang party headquarters in Keelung City, Wu Guosheng. He was the first to say it . When did Xie Guoliang face that he was about to be recalled ? It jumped out at once that I wanted to strike down, I want to recall Speaker Tong Ziwei. Do you remember, so strike out was not Zhu Lilun. The first person to call out was the chairman of the Keelung City Party Headquarters. At that time, the Kuomintang later said not to do this. As a result, he said that this was the behavior of our Keelung City Party Headquarters, so he suppressed it. So from that time, he established a so-called victory group to bring in all the Kuomintang’s high-profile people in Keelung who want to enter politics in the future. Why? In the end , after he had an incident at the Tainan City Party Headquarters, he disbanded this group . Everyone thought it was disbanded. It was not his disbandment. It was not really disbanded. His disbandment was in Qing Dynasty. See if there were too many informants in this group . And who is the leader of this group? Ji Wenquan. He is the proposer of the recall proposal to remove the Renai District City Councilor. He is the leader. He kicked everyone out and then took him back. Isn’t there three hundred taels of silver in this place? Therefore, the Kuomintang is currently using strikes to start from Keelung and Yilan , and then push down to the two norths. Then there is no Taoyuan because Taoyuan does not have DPP legislators, and then it goes to Tainan and Kaohsiung . I don’t know if there is any problem at the moment , but these party branches 6 Party workers in the 7 party departments , especially me. A very critical point is that the secretary-general is in custody. Everyone thinks it doesn’t matter. The secretary-general is nothing. The chairman is not in custody. I want to tell everyone that the operation of a local party branch is more important than the secretary -general. What the chairman is responsible for is responsible for raising funds. If he is highly respected, he will use his name to raise funds. Then if something comes out, Qiao is really doing party affairs and implementing the instructions of the central government. Whoever is the secretary-general goes to the central committee for all meetings. If the chairman has something to do , it doesn’t matter. He is not the deputy chairman. He acts as the secretary- general. Even the chairman goes . Do you know that many of you in Taipei City, New Taipei City , and even Keelung have been detained one by one ? Aren’t you the ones who sent these party workers ? Even if you are not detained, many of your chairmen and many party workers are on bail at least tens of 100,000, which means that you are involved in a serious case. At this time, if the Kuomintang does not jump out and make a beautiful statement, at least apologize. I think the Kuomintang Central Committee should at least jump out and apologize to me. To Keelung, I want to apologize to the deviant behavior of these party workers in Shuangbei. You must at least make this apology , otherwise you will come out to strike. If one day the Kuomintang goes to the streets to ask everyone to sign, who dares to sign? After I sign, my personal capital will be eaten by you. After I sign, my personal capital will be collected by you, because the credibility of the Kuomintang has been completely bankrupted in this recall , so I say that when the Kuomintang does not When apologizing, you then issue an order to all party officials, all these public opinion representatives of the Kuomintang, all have KPIs to go to a wide range of co-signers. Who dares to be a general? Just said that the Kuomintang wants to apologize. Yanfeng and Yuanzhi are two people at the scene. They are the blue and green camps. Regarding this, the two sides have completely different positions . General Yuanzhi said that the Kuomintang should apologize to these places, including the Democratic Progressive Party. The party, especially in Keelung, has been directly involved in the matter. It is said that this is the biggest scandal in history. How can the entire administrative system be involved? In the KMT, except for the central party headquarters, it talks about comments that do not target individual cases . At the same time, it also talks about whether there are double standards in investigation and investigation. Then you see including New Taipei Chairman Huang Zhixiong saying why should we deal with big cases and small cases? Then why should heavy sentences for minor crimes be done like this? Thank you. Guoliang just said that within five years, including Lian Hou Youyi , the Secretary-General of the New Taipei Party Headquarters was detained . Even Hou Youyi came out to talk about suppressing dissidents . Do the two KMTs need to apologize for coming to Yuan ? But what we are seeing now is whether there are double standards in the judiciary. Today, the High Court came out to talk about Zhang Yuanxiang’s protest , and the High Court came out to talk about this. He said that the forged document for removing the co-signer is different from the general forged document . He said that because the removal of the co-signer is the cornerstone of democracy… It is either a forged document or Brother Xiao Wu just explained last time that the result was you. In the end , the standard of whether it affected the results was also when Han Guoyu was dismissed . At that time , there were also reports about death signatures and forged documents. The reason why the prosecutors did not prosecute at that time was also because they forged documents and had no results . For example, the principle is that it has never been like this before. Doesn’t it mean that if you make a mistake , you must arrest him ? No, it has never been like this before. So look at our party chairman Huang Lu Jinru in Taipei City. He is the person in charge of Taipei City. He is not just assisting the strike group. We went to recall Wu Peiyi, Wu Siyao, and he also wanted to strike back. We had five legislators in Taipei who were recalled. As a result, the main operator was arrested. The main person in charge in New Taipei was Chen Zhenrong, the secretary-general. He was also responsible. For example, he had to help remove Green, and then he also had to strike back and was arrested. Then Keelung. So many people have been arrested in Keelung , and a bunch of party workers in Yilan have been arrested, and a bunch of party workers in Tainan have been arrested, and then the leader of the strike in Kaohsiung for the double robbery was arrested, and then our Li Xiaoliang is the striker Wu Peiyi, the Li Xiaoliang Youth Army. After they were interviewed, they were asked to say, you guys What should I do if a strike group cannot communicate with each other? What should I do if a strike group cannot communicate with each other ? Abandon the retraining . Now only Li Xiaoliang is left in the entire headquarters to remove Wu Peiyi. Even the volunteers they found at the beginning cannot come. It is empty. So in fact, the prosecutor did this This action actually has a great impact on us , whether it is a green strike or a counter-strike. Did you hear what Yanfeng just said? Don’t do anything illegal in the beginning. If you don’t do anything illegal , there will be no consequences. He just said this. But the problem is that what we are talking about now is judicial. During the process, I saw many people in the legal field. The media also interviewed some senior people in the legal field. He said that he had never seen this kind of forgery before and it was considered a misdemeanor. It was considered a misdemeanor if it was under 5 years. It was rare to see such a cannon to shoot birds like Wu Zongxian . Wu Zongxian used to be a prosecutor. 1 In 20 years, he said that Lin Youchang, Secretary-General of the Democratic Progressive Party, Lin Youchang , came out to lead the trend and said that the Kuomintang is called organized crime. Wu Zongxian said , please, please. He used to deal with organized crime and organized violent groups and fraud groups. There was no such thing as forging documents or organized crime. This was what Wu Zongxian said. He said that if this is called organized crime, then the government often spreads rumors and says that the budget has been Deletion or investigation has been leaking to the media so that the media can report the content of the investigation. The problem of non-disclosure of investigations is called organized crime at this time. Another one is that the budget was deleted. Is it a rumor? There are some… You have to explain your logic clearly. It is strange that you are doing bad things yourself and you are afraid that others will do it. You are very strange. Many of them are rumors . I deleted the health insurance budget and we deleted the elderly allowance and childcare allowance. These are all rumors, so you need to explain your logic clearly. It’s very strange that you are afraid of others to do bad things when you do bad things. It’s very strange that some and many of them are rumors. The deletion of the health insurance budget and the deletion of child care allowances for the elderly are all rumors. Many legislators of the Democratic Progressive Party are spreading rumors . Is it organized crime? Then come Wu Zongxian, which law school did you study in? What did you say ? We are talking about Wu Zongxian, he is not talking about Wu Zongxian, he is a prosecutor, right , and then he said that when the Yilan prosecutor went to Yilan to search, he took away the official document that the winning group sent to the strike group to collect the second-stage joint signature , and then took it away , causing the strike group to get it without the official document. Then he asked the Investigation Bureau if it had been taken away by you. At first, the Investigation Bureau did not admit it, but later it seemed that the prosecutor At first, the prosecutor denied it. Then the prosecutor asked the Bureau of Investigation. The Bureau of Investigation said that they had made a mistake and invented a new word called “take away together. ” He said it was called “take away together. ” Wu Zongxian said that he had never heard of this word, okay? If you make a mistake, you would make a mistake. Why did you invent this word ? So in the process, it really makes you feel that the Yuanzhi Kuomintang is targeting this matter. What did you just say? Just like the general asked the Kuomintang just now, do you think you need to include the Party Central Committee or something to sign an apology in response to some deaths? Do you think it is unnecessary? I think the current problem is that the judiciary has intervened in the competition between the two parties. This issue has a great impact on the majority and minority public opinion in the entire society . Come to Yanfeng because I just listened to Ye Yuanzhi. The member spoke for so long because I respect him as a legislator, so I didn’t interrupt. But because you just mentioned it and you did interrupt, I didn’t interrupt to let me finish because I gave him a lot of time because he was just talking about what he was just talking about. It’s okay for me to interrupt just now. The discussion you just mentioned specifically brought up a few people . The first one is Wu Zongxian, right? Wu Zongxian, you said that he supports these forgeries. Does the document support the director of civil affairs in Keelung to leak the personal information of these people through the user administration system ? Wu Zongxian also supported gambling in the past. If you want to talk like this today, he was a prosecutor , but he supported gambling in the past. This statement was also bombarded by everyone. Secondly, you brought up Han Guoyu. We also discussed a lot here at that time because of Han Guoyu’s dismissal. Later, the Legislative Yuan also went to amend the law with your blue and white camp . You wanted to increase the sentence , and it has now taken effect. So the timing of the general environment and the implementation of the law are completely different. You are still talking about the Qing Dynasty , and then you will come back again. Because Comrade Ye, you just talked about the cognition of the High Court, because the High Court’s law The officer has talked about 3 points. Let me show you the first one, which he said harms the constitutional rights of the impostor. The second one is called affecting the recall results of public officials. Just now, Commissioner Ye Yuanzhi has been talking about the death and signatures. These will not affect the recall results. Why not? In the first stage, you are committing fraud. In the second stage, there are also situations involving fraud . Where did the list of situations under investigation come from? If you falsified in the first stage , you would not have progressed to the second stage. How would it not affect the situation ? That’s why the judges of the High Court talked about the situation that shakes the cornerstone of democracy. What I want to talk about is that Commissioner Ye Yuanzhi, your legal opinion turns out to be higher than that of the judges of the High Court. You may think that The last thing you can do is to select the justices. I don’t know if the Kuomintang Yanfeng now thinks that this whole thing, especially the Keelung incident , is so serious that it is the biggest scandal in history. Why , of course, it’s because now and in the past , you said today, let’s assume it happened in a county or city governed by the DPP. Well, if the civil affairs director or director of a county or city governed by the DPP does this, You see how the Kuomintang and the Kuomintang will attack the same thing. Don’t have double standards. We have been emphasizing the need for the same standards for everything. Then the Kuomintang has been talking about two arguments. The first one is called a small case, a big deal, right? You said how could this be a small case ? If I go to check today , you know that in the past, all of Taiwan We have been saying that public servants are not allowed to leak secrets, so I checked our Taipei City side. The characters on the top are a little smaller. There has been an incident before where the police used their police system to transfer people’s personal information and leaked it. You know he was also prosecuted by the District Prosecutor’s Office. The most severe case was that he was removed from office. You can see that this is also a Kaohsiung police officer. He also leaked secrets and was sentenced later. What does it mean to deal with a small case in a big way? If the general public encounters the same problem , the judges in the prosecution unit will all judge according to our laws. Why does it become a small case when it comes to you, the Kuomintang? The second thing he said is not serious, I tell everyone, breach of trust, fraud, forgery, not all cases are 5 years. Is the following correct? The Kuomintang. Now we have no distinction between political parties. We have all been talking about fraud . Is there any more serious and less serious aspects of fraud? According to the Kuomintang, your logic is that in the future, if you are defrauding those riders who are defrauding, when they are caught, you will say that I only defrauded 1 million . Why didn’t you catch the one who defrauded 10 million? Is n’t this serious? Is it allowed to be like this? This is what our century-old party wants to provide to our Taiwanese society, the Taiwanese people , and even the education of our next generation. Next time, he said that it was something that happened in the past. It had never been like this before . Let me give you an example. Today, if a citizen runs a red light and the police want to enforce the law, he tells him that I used to I used to run a red light. You ran a red light at that time and you didn’t catch me. If you catch me now, you can’t give me a ticket because you didn’t give me a ticket before . Is it okay to do this? So I really don’t know if you, the legislators of the Kuomintang or the public representatives, you have to defend the things that are illegal now and involve illegal things. Please come up with your arguments. The points must also meet the expectations of society. Don’t talk just for the sake of talking . I just don’t understand some of what he said, but I will answer the last point. If it is right, I will answer the last point. If the audience understands , it will be fine. We don’t understand what you said. I will answer the last point. What nonsense did he say ? Regarding whether Deng was caught or not, I was talking about Han Guoyu before. What I was talking about was Han Guoyu . At that time, it was also the prosecutor’s opinion . Your opinions should be consistent . Then what you said later, what should be attached to it? It’s Weng Xiaoling, it’s Xu Yuzhen, that’s your Kuomintang. That’s right. The forged document he repaired. The case became more serious because the match required a photocopy of the ID card. Today you have to attach a photocopy of the ID card. If you also forged a document, your crime is of course serious. But the problem is that all the strike groups we have now, whether they are blue, green or green, which one is possessed? All certificate copies are based on the old method of making copies without identification. Documents can be forged and signed with death. It’s not that you don’t understand what they are saying. I don’t understand what you are saying. Listen attentively and don’t interrupt all the time. It’s not because the standard has changed after the Kuomintang revised the law. In fact, the standard is because of his revision of the law. It needs to be accompanied by a photocopy of the ID card. Now it is not attached , so the standard is of course still the same as before. Minfeng. The first one is that you also advocate that the Kuomintang should apologize for this matter , especially Chairman Zhu Lilun. Should he apologize to various places ? This is the first one. The second one is, have you noticed that the latest one is the Democratic Progressive Party? Secretary-General Lin Youchang directly named Zhu Lilun and asked, “Do you know about Keelung? This matter is Keelung Speaker Tong Ziwei’s Democratic Progressive Party membership. He also directly named Keelung Mayor Xie Guoliang. Do you know about it? Obviously everything has been raised to include the party chairman level or even the mayor level of the administrative system. So what should we do in the future?” No, I think it means that you just talked a lot of fallacies , so what should we do in the future ? No, I think it means that you just talked a lot of fallacies, and the premise is that if you don’t do wrong things , you will not be punished. The Kuomintang has done so many wrong things, and others will deal with you . You are still talking about this, and you are talking about how to do this. This cannot be done in this way. You are a person who has broken the law , and you are telling the prosecutor what to do. You are directing the handling of a case. I have never seen a murderer. Then he called the prosecutor and said, “You can’t handle me. I’ll handle it. It’s funny. Have you ever seen Chen Jinxing tell the prosecutor that he can’t handle him? He can’t kidnap people or something like that. So from the beginning to the end, you just don’t make mistakes. There’s no such thing . And now you’re trying to force people to do something like this… Picking on those trivial things, I think this is important. You, Zhu Lilun, came out to clean up the battlefield. The next order said : This kind of thing is not allowed to happen in the future and then we apologize to the society. This is called cleaning up the battlefield. It means that nothing will happen again. Otherwise, look at the list of co-signers of this civil affairs unit involved in this recall. How serious is this ? You Zhu Lilun or some other legal experts, do you think this civil servant is not serious? There is also a man named Chu Wenqing in Taipei City. He is also the same . He has been detained . There was an offense in the past. You still followed the same thing when you met in Keelung. Now it is puzzling. Many people, including Huang Lu, are also detained or something. Why are people from the Kuomintang one after another, and some people continue to do the same? So I think you, Zhu Lilun, don’t go to Kaidao to protest. Your reason for protest will not be accepted by everyone. You said that President Lai’s polls have dropped a lot this time . Did the Kuomintang rise a lot? You barely rose by 2%. 2% is within the error range. It has not been raised at all, okay? So I think Zhu Lilun, you have to come out to prevent you party members from being arrested again. There are not enough party workers. I think for your sake. The co-signed letter was confiscated, so you Zhu Lilun came out and said that we should not do this in the future. We party workers will continue to do it . Na Minfeng, please ask why Zhu Lilun was beaten to death from beginning to end and did not talk about this part. He just refused to admit his mistake, so everyone I doubt whether it is organized crime and then come back to ask whether this thing will be burned into the Party Central Committee . I think it means that when similar things happened in various local party departments of your party and the Party Central Committee did not come out to say a word , I suspected that you acquiesced . You don’t need to say sorry to anyone or anything, just say that comrades will be arrested and don’t do anything. That’s fine. Then you won’t have fewer party workers , nor will there be fewer signatures. How can you complain so that you don’t make mistakes? There will be fewer people and fewer signatures. You, Zhu Lilun, am me today. I bravely shouted 426 in the Beijing Procuratorate. After I stood up, I began to feel that this judicial investigation is completely persecuting the opposition party . It’s all Lai Qingde who is persecuting this so-called co-signer. The question is this argument. Does the society accept your argument of Zhu Lilun? If the society accepts your argument, I think your polls today will be extremely high because you are the persecuted people. But the problem is that today you are not the persecuted people. You are the criminals. You are not a case of political persecution . You have to make it clear that it is like I am a survivor of the Formosa Island incident. This feels very outrageous, so I think it is unprecedented for you to say that you have obviously made a mistake and then the civil affairs system intervened in this . The law will be implemented when it is promulgated . And then you still need to match it with an ID card. That is very funny. I also need to specify that this law will only apply after matching the ID card. Isn’t this a very funny reason? So today the Kuomintang’s logic has been reversed to this point, which makes you feel inexplicable. It’s a crime, but you can come out and curse people , and then you can come out and defend yourself, and you don’t know what you have done, and then you don’t apologize , so your signatures are getting higher and higher. Minfeng just said Yuanzhi Minfeng just said something. Have you ever considered clearing the battlefield ? If you don’t apologize , these things will continue to burn. If you apologize, even if another party department is searched later or whatever , those who have apologized first will be the same. How about apologizing for what happened before and being searched , and then including the second level because the Kuomintang is still going for the second level , right, then you go for the second level. Next, have you considered whether this is something the Kuomintang should also consider at the moment ? I have now entered the judicial case. I didn’t comment on the case just now. To be honest, how did they get the joint letter? I don’t know if it wasn’t me who went to the company. Maybe it was because of that time. According to the case of Han Guoyu, the prosecutor did not prosecute. In fact, there was a reason. He just asked you whether Zhu Lilun wanted to apologize. The reason was that you should not talk about things over there. The reason was that the strike group did not have the ability to check whether it was true or false. I think because it has entered the judicial process, let the judiciary discuss it. Of course, because now, because I just said that many of our party workers have been arrested, there are not enough people now . So what to do now is to reorganize the team. Our chairman has also ordered the people to assist. In this case, the citizen teacher will talk about it. Next, the whole thing from the perspective of the citizen teacher, including the Kuomintang , including the one just talked about whether Zhu Lilun should apologize or not , because the whole thing is still burning . Regardless of whether it was burning at the local party headquarters or even someone was discussing that today, when media reporters directly asked people from the Kuomintang Central Party Headquarters, they directly asked whether you were mentally prepared to search the central party headquarters . When the case is investigated and your evidence goes down, you don’t know whether it will happen. So next, I think this matter needs to be separated. Look at what the Kuomintang has been saying. Just like what Yuan Zhi said just now, Han Kuo-yu was really not easy to check at that time. To be honest, if you throw someone in at random and I don’t have enough checking capabilities, then the leader will be held accountable. If he says he has to take full responsibility, that is a problem. But today’s problem with the Kuomintang is that he is not him. If you just say that it just didn’t show up in the check, they just sent in a signed letter , and we didn’t check very carefully. If this is the method, I think the whole people will be angry. But he is not his problem today. There is a big force behind him. After he threw out the roster, it felt like someone started to copy it. This outrageous method and the copying is very outrageous. This outrageous method has made the whole thing become a mess. Many party offices of the Kuomintang in various places have been raided into a mess. When we talk about this , I will not use organized crime to describe this matter , but I obviously have a systemic problem behind it. This systemic problem is the most important reason why this period of time. The inspection and investigation team is trying their best to search these places. The part of the law that Yuanzhi mentioned just now, the choice of Law 98-2 , was of course proposed by Xu Yuzhen and Weng Xiaoling at that time . Now there is a discussion on the Internet about apologizing to Weng Xiaoling. There is an apology form circulated by Weng Xiaoling. Ling made a mistake and I helped correct it. It means PTT villagers. He made a list and said he wanted to apologize to Weng Xiaoling for the following four reasons. First, I was led by the media. Wasn’t it because he didn’t check the box ? He said he ignored his determination to destroy the Kuomintang . If he checked the box, he couldn’t understand. It turned out that Mr. Weng was an undercover agent . For the first-level demolitionist, the male was Zhong Xiaoping and the female was Weng Xiaoling. It was rude, so he said I was P. The TT villagers apologized to Weng Xiaoling and promised to respect his doctorate in German law in the future . This was of course a satire on him . However, when Weng Xiaoling was practicing Article 98-2, he actually had a very famous one that is now being circulated on the Internet. He said that false co-signers would be severely punished and he was very concerned about this matter . What you are practicing is a new law . You have to attach an ID card , but you don’t dare to attach an ID card yourself , and then you are desperate. And now I will talk about why the situation is so serious this time. I will tell you that I checked before. When the Kuomintang launched the referendum in 2021, they also had to sign the death rate at that time. The death rate was 0.3%. The current death rate is strike. Now they are strike. The mortality rate of the Green Committee ranges from 3% to 7%. The mortality rate is more than 20 times higher. What does this mean? If you, the juniors, are compared with the seniors of 2021, you will be embarrassed. You have no morals at all and do not abide by the law . The proportion of copying and falsehoods is too high than that of the previous seniors . Duoduo means that if you juniors are compared with the seniors in 2021, you will be embarrassed. You have no morals at all and do not abide by the law. The proportion of your copying and the error rate are much higher than those of the previous seniors. So the Kuomintang is also wondering and said that it was like this in the past . In the past, it was also the beginning of the roster, but Yes, I think in the past at least they had stalls. Of course there would be people copying, but most of them still set up stalls and signed the petition. Not many people said this time that you didn’t have a stall at all . Then there were inexplicably more than 200 signatures. I watched the video and said no one went there all morning. Why did he later announce that after the booth was closed, he said that they received 200 signatures today ? There is something wrong with this thing. So today’s system is here and you don’t deal with this matter at all. What will the whole thing be? What do they tie him to now? You know they are using one move now . Zhu Lilun is now using one move to make this matter reasonable. He turned it into a judicial persecution , so he tied him to whom, he tied him to Ke Wenzhe, so you see why he later had Zhu Lilun and Ke Wen… that is, he and Huang Guochang hugged each other on the same stage , and then they even went on stage together in 426. Their purpose was to tie this matter together. I think Xiaocao Wouldn’t it be better if you recognize that your family is corrupt? Now the Kuomintang, you are forging documents , and now you have to tie them together and use this method to keep warm. But I speak in good conscience in terms of support. Just now, Sister Minfeng mentioned that Lai Qingde’s support has indeed declined. And I also saw a report in the newspaper. An online vote is whether you are satisfied with Lai Qingde or dissatisfied. So the current situation is half and half, so they use such tragic appeals to make it seem like judicial persecution. At present, it seems that it is effective in strategy based on my conscience . But I think from a moral level, your behavior is this. It will only make many people think that if the Kuomintang does something wrong, you can just start over. You are starting over today, attaching your ID card step by step, and copying the steps step by step. Although it is slow , I think this is a high level. You are a big party, and you need to get me to make up for it. Lai Qingde’s polls have declined. There are many factors. Of course, it is not tariffs or other tariffs that have a greater impact . Just now, Yizhong was talking about whether there are so many problems because of the rush to do things before the new law is applied. But even so, Minfeng, can you tell me about the removal of congressmen? Because this time Keelung is based on the recall of DPP congressmen. The number of signatures of the removal congressmen is about 200, more than 200, like Zheng Wenting , about 500 in the first stage, only 500. As a result, its pass rate was only 52% , which is half and half. In fact, I asked him specifically yesterday and he said that in fact, they only need to make up about 150 more copies to enter the first stage, but he doesn’t know how the director of the Civil Affairs Department can be so strict like this. The situation is not serious. I mean because there are 500 copies and there is another one. It may be more than 500 copies or maybe even less. Isn’t it like Minfeng needs to use the civil affairs system to help even these hundreds of copies ? No matter how many copies you have, you can’t use the civil affairs system, but I can’t do anything. I can’t imagine why illegal things would happen with such a small number of copies. Ye Yuanzhi had the answer and you were arrested, so there was no one to sign, right? There weren’t enough party workers… He wanted to eliminate the death signatures, so the number of death signatures they sent out was 0. What do you think? It’s strange why there were so many deaths in the past , why there are none now. This is ridiculous . You can mobilize 250,000 people to go to Kaidao, but you can’t sign hundreds and hundreds of copies of this petition. Isn’t it strange? So the entire party headquarters doesn’t know what it is doing. In fact, I will add one more The reason why this matter is serious is because the ruling now also says that there are still accomplices who have not been brought to the case. I just talked about how the congressman who walked out of office could be so serious. Of course, everyone will think about it and ask whether this method of yours was used before when he was dismissed. Is this the first time you used it ? Liang , yes, because you just dismissed Liang before, right? It turned out to be a failure , so now you have to find out why your group deleted him. Who are the members? Are they involved in the previous dismissal? Did the same method be used, for example, to leak the public’s information? I think if these matters such as personal information are really involved, the Kuomintang will really be wiped out. Let me explain why a member of the Renai District in this district has to use the civil affairs system because the Kuomintang is not a major party in Keelung . If I remember correctly, there are about a thousand people in a Zhongli District Party Headquarters in Taoyuan. Because our population in Keelung is not high to begin with, our entire population in Keelung seems to be over 300,000. Less than 300,000 is about the same as a district in Taoyuan. We are small but strong. There are also 500 Diamond Party members. You can just look at the list of all Party members. It has about 2 to 3 thousand Party members. But if you divide it into Keelung because there are 7 districts , there may not be that many Party members in that district. You may only have dozens or even fewer Party members. How do you want all the family and friends of the party members to reach a hundred people ? Yes, but the information of the family and friends is not available in the party headquarters. Of course, the party headquarters must be correct. After he finds the head of the party member and his family, he must use the civil affairs. Otherwise, how can he have this so-called identity of his? Date of birth of the sub-certificate number, so this is why Keelung is the only city where the municipal party headquarters has to use the district , and then the district has to use the so-called civil affairs system , because there are not so many party members in that district and community, but no matter how illegal it is, it is illegal. So what do you mean? This matter especially involves the administrative agencies. If even the administrative agencies are involved here, then Yanfeng just mentioned this whole matter in the future because the ruling also mentioned some issues including accomplices. What will happen next? However, this has nothing to do with the entire domestic situation. You can imagine that it is related to the entire general recall trend in the country . Although it is about the members of Keelung , it is the entire general recall trend. But in addition to this, will the affairs of some other committee members also spread to the entire recall? Including some of the later additions to add fuel to the fire , such as this effect. For example, the blue and green seats in Hualien are considered to be the top priority. It seems that Fu Kunqi’s seat is on the second level. If the militia group announces it, they will probably deliver it on May 2nd . It has passed their so-called safety threshold , but this matter has also spread to the incident of Renjun’s mining tax. Fu Kunqi’s response is very simple. The first one is that it is an old case and a new one. It is like this. I don’t know how many times it has been investigated before. You have to do it at this juncture. I still have to do this. In addition, what he said is that not a penny has entered the individual. In the process, it also went through the parliament. There are also members of the Democratic Progressive Party in the parliament . It means that it is not me who does it. Everyone is like this. But you saw the audio file and something appeared at this time. Listen to the audio file and watch all these contents. What will you think? I think the Hualien County Government should quickly clarify itself and tell the people who attended the meeting who authorized them to go. The second one is because the content is too scary. Those who went there include the deputy county magistrate and secretary-general , including environmental protection tax, right? You can watch it now, right? What we are talking about here is actually a few people who have been exposed in the audio file. Why did I just talk about the thriller? He, the then secretary-general of the county government, named Zhang Yihua , said that he wanted to improve the good interaction between enterprises and local governments. To be honest, people who usually say this kind of things should be people from enterprises. We want to improve the interactions between enterprises and local governments. The good interaction between the government and the government was actually a county secretary-general who came out and said that we want to improve the good interaction between enterprises and local governments. But he also mentioned that if I can’t wait for your equal goodwill, then the Hualien County government will act in accordance with the law and regulations from now on, putting the law first . To be honest , I read this first and everyone will definitely do it. What I find very strange is that when you said this, you didn’t act according to the law. The law cannot break the law. Why did you suddenly say that you will not cooperate or help? We will put the law first. How did you put the law behind your butt? Then how did you put the law behind your butt? He even mentioned later that you should go back quickly and think about showing goodwill to the Hualien County Government. Many times, if you should stop, just stop. Of course, it is for the judicial part. Because in Fu’an, they think that I won the eight criminal lawsuits. As a result, look at what they said, “If you should stop, just stop. ” It will help your group’s long-term foundation in Hualien. I don’t know if this is a needle in the cotton wool or something. I don’t know if this is considered a threat or a well-intentioned reminder from the barrister’s point of view. I don’t know if this can be defined legally. There is also what Deputy County Magistrate Yan Xinzhang said at the time. He said that you have It is impossible to refund the money you paid , but only for the more than 200 million yuan . There is also a legal fee that seems to be impossible to refund, because the more than 4 million yuan should be shouldered by the Hualien County Government, but he said that because this is justice, it has not yet ended , but if we talk about corporate feedback and taking care of the place, then this place I Let’s talk about this again. I’ll be honest , it sounds weird. The first one is that you didn’t ask for it. You said that it’s impossible to talk to people about refunding the money you paid. But let’s talk about corporate feedback and take care of the place. What does it mean to talk about corporate feedback? Usually people talk about this , and it should be people from the enterprise. It’s rare that officials say, come, let’s talk about the enterprise. To give back, you are asking for manna from someone. There is such a thing . Ask him for manna. The other two companies will give it to him. Let’s talk about it later. Come back and see. In fact, Rao Zhong, who was the director of environmental protection at the time, also mentioned that you Fu’an because Fu’an is constantly because they actually said in that meeting that I have shareholders today. My shareholders want it. The money I am responsible for today should be returned to my account. If I suddenly don’t want it myself, how will I explain the result? Look at the then Environmental Protection Bureau Chief Rao Zhong. He said that if Fu’an proposed such a relationship today, everything should be handled in accordance with the law. We will do it in accordance with the law. It doesn’t matter. Your air pollution operation license has expired. We can call you immediately. The Fu’an mine is suspended. I am right about what the then county magistrate Zhang Yihua said. From now on, we will act in accordance with the law and regulations. We will put the law first. What should we do if he exceeds the deadline? How can we use it as a means of negotiation? I don’t know . This sounds ridiculous . To be honest, these things are only a small part of so many audio files. But I think what’s more curious about the outside world is actually another passage : a great person who attended the meeting said that the two adults in Taipei are all good. I would like to ask that your deputy county magistrate is also here. You said there are adults outside. Which one is the adult? How old is it? I will ask clearly if it seems that this adult should be better than Deputy County Magistrate Yan Xinzhang is older than the County Magistrate. He is older than the Deputy County Magistrate. It should be the County Magistrate. But if it is the County Magistrate , you say it is the County Magistrate . And the County Magistrate should be in Hualien. I just directly question you when you said that two adults have negotiated. Which two adults have negotiated in Taipei ? Then you asked me why I just said that Hualien County should clean itself up first. It hurts that the Hualien County Government’s self-clarification is telling you not to spread rumors and slander. It doesn’t matter . The Hualien County Government has said it. He directly came out and said not to spread rumors and smear. Just like what I just said. In fact, the Hualien County Government’s statement is not good because this case has already entered the investigation and it was investigated in January . Everyone remembers the one next to the 1995 Supreme Building. When the employee dormitory was being knocked down, Fu Kunqi didn’t talk about it at that time. This was justice. In fact, there were rumors at that time that it was related to the mining tax. But at that time, during the investigation , no one actually mentioned this matter. Fu Kunqi pulled him very hard. I tell you now, to be honest , I don’t guess who the adult is . My child is not me. Either you are a villain or a child like us who cannot speculate about the adult world. But when your officials were meeting with the company today, they actually used such a method to ask the company. Is this an unwelcome donation or something? I don’t know, but if you tell me today, I will tell you that you have already made arrangements for the big ones. Why do n’t you go back and do it ? He also mentioned what Minfeng said just now. When Fu’an Mining, a subsidiary of Xingfu Cement, told you that I can’t do it, the officials present at the meeting could tell him that others can do it . Why ca n’t you ? Zhang Yihua, the then secretary-general of the county government, said that he would put the law first. I don’t know where your law is placed among the officials who attended the meeting. But it seems that the law has become a tool for you to negotiate with enterprises , or is it a means or a thing to intimidate? Why did I just mention that Hualien County Government is here ? So far, to be honest, the response is terrible. What about spreading rumors and smearing? You just say forget it, we won’t talk about individual cases. The prosecutor is already investigating anyway. You just say forget it. But these people are holding a meeting on behalf of the county government. This will make the outside world question whether the other companies that I just mentioned are okay with you and this. Fu’an Mining has gone through the same process. We asked you to come in and talk about why everyone has a mining tax of 70. Why can they swallow it but you can’t? This is what it says in it. The audio file in it even says that you don’t care about the directors. Does the director have no pressure? He mentioned the issue of the independent director. Does he have no pressure officer ? Go and talk to the company employees about whether you have no pressure or not. There is a lot of pressure , so do you want to put pressure on him or something? They only look at the numbers. You have to coordinate and find a way to solve all the problems we have now. Up to now, we are still talking about the law, but you will find that in that process, we are not talking about the law. We are talking about the law and the truth . What is the interview? What is love ? What is blackmail? So I will tell you that today Fu Kunqi came out to respond. He said that the investigation will be investigated as it should be. I agree with his attitude… because after all, he shouted this himself , but for these officials to go out at that time, unless the Hualien County Government came out to deny that there was no such meeting. … The recordings there are all fake, because it seems that these people are still alive now, and there should be a way to ask. Since they attended the meeting as Hualien County officials, it would be easy for the Hualien County government to self-examine and ask these people to come out and tell them whether the reported situation happened at the meeting that day. Besides, if you have the ability, these three people came out to deny the whole matter of the general. In fact, the Supervisory Yuan has corrected it . Like yesterday in the program, Shang Yifu roughly arranged the entire chronology . Maybe everyone will be like Shen Boyang, who talked about it in the Legislative Yuan last year. Because you know that this whole recall trend will spread. There are two main reasons for this. One is the so-called bill issue in the first half of last year. The second half is the so-called general budget issue. In the first half of the bill, there is a revision related to the tax law. Shen Boyang means that in this case, between 10 yuan and 70 yuan, because it is related to local tax regulations. It turns out that these are all Are they interlocking ? In fact, you said that these local mining taxes are set by the local government. Is it reasonable and reasonable? It is your regulation. But why did you get this? You asked the manufacturer to sue the city. Usually, he will not go to the end of the road. He will not sue the city because why is the mine here? I and you are deadlocked. What should I do in the future? Business people don’t fight with the government. People don’t fight with the government. Therefore, manufacturers will go to the Supervisory Yuan before suing the city government. Let the Supervisory Yuan see if it is impeachment. Then you stop and we will talk about it. So whether the manufacturers have done it , in fact, manufacturers have done this. On June 25, 2021, the mining company of Fu’an Mine filed an extension application . I noticed that the extension application will be discussed later because the content of the Supervisory Yuan will be discussed later. On July 2, 2021 , the Hualien Environmental Protection Bureau responded with a letter and said that you will pay the review tax . He paid it three days later on July 5. The Fu’an Mining Company paid the tax in accordance with the regulations. The key point is that the agreement started on July 7, 2021. We don’t know whether the recording of the conference was recorded on this day because the media reports said that he recorded it on this day. The Hualien County Government now has two methods. The first is for me to jump out and explain what happened . The second is that the recording is fake. It is forged and made by AI. It has nothing to do with us. You only have these two methods. You can’t say that you are entering the judicial process . You are the county government and they are suing you. Why did I stop opening the Fu’an Mine from July 16 to October 19, 2021 ? Why didn’t I dare to open it ? Is it because I can’t stand such a heavy tax ? Or did he decide to fight you to the death and sue you ? But he really followed him before he sued him. The Supervisory Yuan made the so-called appeal. My appeal failed, so the Supervisory Yuan also corrected the Hualien County Government. What did it say? So I just talked about why I talked about that so-called one. The first paragraph here is about the extension proposed by Fu’an Company, because it was mentioned here that the Supervisory Yuan’s reply said that the Hualien County Government cited ample financial resources as an excuse. Then to balance the impact on the protection of mountains and forests in the jurisdiction, special regulations on mineral autonomy were formulated in 1998, making it legal. This was what you could have done. When the autonomous regulations were re-enacted for the third time in 105 , the affordability of the industry was not taken into consideration. Fu’an Mineral Industry said it couldn’t stand it and felt that you could increase it by 7 times. I don’t seem to be that easy to make money. I dig sand and gravel, not gold , so I made some appeals and raised tax disputes. Then the new system has not been approved by the Ministry of Finance for review. The previous tax source disappeared because of the tax collection law. Then , I borrowed debt to make up for the shortfall in revenue and expenditure. You were originally going to increase it by 7 times , but because If a dispute arises and the money cannot be collected, then the county government should have collected money but did not receive it, which will affect the financial health of the county government . Let’s talk about the city government’s failure to review the extension application for the fixed pollution source operation license of the ore mining operator in accordance with the regulations . This is the case. You should have reviewed it but failed to review it, and then you violated the law and made corrections according to the law. The Supervisory Yuan told you that you had The problem is that you have a flaw . What you did did not only fail to enrich the treasury of your county government , but also failed to collect the taxes that the county government should collect , which caused losses to the treasury of the county government, so it had to borrow debt to supplement it. So Fu’an Mine said, since the people will not fight with the government, I will not mine, okay? The county government suffered a loss. Then Fu’an Mine is Happy Water. Ni sued the Hualien County Government again. I told you that you lost the case in the first instance . That’s why I told you whether you should take this case . The Hualien County Government said you were happy. Cement was withdrawn and you removed it . They refused to withdraw it. The case has been delayed until now . It is no longer this case. It’s not that it’s okay if we don’t sue. This case is still in litigation. At this time, the recording file is It has leaked out that everyone thinks that when Fu Kunqi was the county magistrate, did he help the Hualien County Government to obtain the financial resources it deserved , or did he fail to do so because he should have fought for it? This is the crux of the whole issue . But of course, you said that the inspection of these whole things is to check whether there is any connection between the things just mentioned and Chief Fu Kunqi. In the end , of course, you have to see what the final decision of the court is . But let’s not talk about the law for this whole matter because there is still some time to follow the procedure. But from a political point of view, Yuan Zhi’s matter is especially now in full swing . When the recall is in full swing , you said that when it is burned like this, will it be right for Fu Kunqi and Hualien ? To make matters worse for Hualien, I think you think it has no effect because it has been burned to the extreme anyway. There are 4,000 less supplements and you can still pass. You will know how high the hatred value on his side is. He should be my judge, because I remember I said it a long time ago. I think everyone should have a very high chance of passing the second level. Because just look at the case of Xie Guoliang, because to be honest, we have so many legislators who have been dismissed, none of them have better conditions than Xie Guoliang or similar to him , because the first one is the mayor, he is a mayor. The entire city government should have a lot of resources that can be used. Administrative resources can be used. For example, he can handle briefings and so on. We can take the opportunity to promote his political achievements and we all have to deal with it ourselves. The second one is that Keelung is bluer than the green one. The third one is that he himself has a very strong grassroots base. At that time, the second -level co-signers seemed to have lost their voice. However, when the DPP congressmen intervened to help, it was over in one go . In a situation where we don’t have the conditions to be as good as him, then everyone wants to say second level, but the chance is very low. I think the chance is very low. Now it seems that Fu Kunqi has passed the second level. So what do you mean, it has affected the extreme. Plus this has nothing. Next, Fu Kunqi will vote hard. Now it seems that Fu Kunqi has also passed the second level. So what you mean is that these have already affected it to the extreme. Plus , this has nothing to do. Next, Fu Kunqi will fight to vote . His strategy should be to find ways to push out his base. Disagree is greater than agree. Please ask you. Now I see reports in the media, like Xu Qiaoxin said that he is going to close it because you are now Of course, you have also encountered some situations in the 15 districts that are going to be dismissed. For example, in the district of Zhongzheng Wanhua , Dai Xiqin is now the acting chairman and is acting as your party chairperson. In the district of Zhongzheng Wanhua, many of the leaders are gone. This one is also gone. But now you want to dismiss them. Xu Qiaoxin from District 15 said that he can collect the co-signers from District 15. Do you have it? I haven’t yet. I want to collect it. It’s okay. You said you want to remove Lai Qingde . Everyone knows that to remove Lai Qingde, at least you said you need to pass two-thirds of the legislators. Everyone is helping you calculate. If you want the blue camp, all the green camp will be almost all dismissed. You are not doing this now because their KPI is actually fake because the chairman seems to have talked about it two or three days ago. People from our main local party committees are all gone . You, chairman, your chairman, talked about KPI. It was not these two days . In fact, he had said it as early as a month ago. Do you care about Kuomintang Chairman Zhu Lilun ? Because I was there at that time. I saw the news and when I was on the same stage with Mr. Lee Ming-hsien, he happened to talk about this matter. So you mean, I talked about it for a month , but there were still so many fake signatures , and they didn’t take action. There was a caucus meeting on Wednesday , and it was decided that everyone should have 30%. So at that time Why are you two compared to the Kuomintang ? Did Huang Lujinru also call many Taipei City councilors to a meeting to talk about this Buda incident? We are going to list KPIs, so everyone must take action. This was a month ago. I think it may not have been implemented at that time. To be honest, because I am like me. I didn’t have any impression of this matter, so I focused on the strike because there were no green legislators in our district who could strike , so of course it was like Qiaoxin, which could help with the collection of other districts. I think this can be done , but if it is like the DPP, because the DPP uses a lot of resources to strike, we and their legislators are very Involvement. For example, this morning , members of the Democratic Progressive Party came to our district to collect signatures, so their members are very involved. However, our members are currently more intense except for the district where Wu Siyao was dismissed . It seems that other districts are not as good as the district where Wu Siyao was dismissed. Do you mean to say that all your members have let go? Leave your legislators alone and then go about their own business. Then the DPP legislators will follow to protect their legislators. If they don’t strike out , of course they all help. Now we are talking about the green strike. Yes , your legislators have not moved at all. Some have moved, but not as much as the DPP. But because of the current situation. The situation is different now, that’s right. Your strategy is different from Xu Qiaoxin’s. You just have to lie down , so Xu Qiaoxin won’t lie down. But you have to enter the third level, right … After entering the third level, it’s an organizational battle, right. If you look at it, why doesn’t he fight? You see, he passed the second level so late. That’s right. Obviously it has something to do with his low profile. It has something to do with Xu Qiaoxin’s high profile. He doesn’t have a high profile either . Because my organization war, my organization war is also in Banqiao. My district, my district, can’t remove others . I can understand why Commissioner Yuan Zhi didn’t move because now he himself has to face removal, and he wants to counter the removal, so of course Xu Qiaoxin also wants to In the face of the revolt , he still went to help others capture the 15th district. So Xu Qiaoxin was more dangerous than him, so he said that his strategy should be perfected . Let’s look at the party headquarters now. I think the party headquarters should make it clear to us one after another that there are not many people. For example, the Central Party Headquarters is still there. The Central Party Headquarters is still there, and it may not be long. There is no one left. Do you have a sense of crisis? Today, the media directly asked you, like Lin Kuanyu , from the Central Party Committee. They directly asked the media whether you were mentally prepared for the Central Party Committee to be raided. Is it possible that you were there? Because Lin Youchang also said it was organized crime. I don’t know what he meant when he said this . What it means to organize crime is that there is one person who gives orders to everyone to do it. The person he is talking about must be Chairman Zhu Lilun . So I think it is possible that many people will guess that the next step will be the Party Central Committee . Those who are more supportive of the Kuomintang are actually half angry but half also very scared. I gave the example of 426. On that day, 426 seemed to be full of people , but in fact some people did not dare to go like that day when our New Taipei Party Secretary was arrested. Later, I asked the former people of our Sanchong District . Colleagues, colleagues representing the public opinion, said that there are several volunteers 426. I was really worried about going, but no one dared to go. In fact, if the judicial system is like this , some people will still be afraid, so the 200,000 people are a lie. He means more. Yanfeng, did you hear that between the lines in Yuan Di, he is still saying that you have the use of the judiciary. There is no sense of deterrence. If we had used the judiciary, then Huang Lu Jinru would not have said that he would be asked to return without guarantee for the first time. I think the Kuomintang cannot have such double standards. I will talk about it again. The judicial and prosecutorial systems are inherently independent. No political party can directly influence Taiwan’s law. Then you just said that there are supporters of the Kuomintang who dare not come to participate in the Kuomintang’s big campaign. Why don’t they dare to participate ? If you think you have no guilty conscience, you just came out to participate in an event. They have been talking about war with dictatorship. What’s even more funny is that some media put him on the Internet and China just wrote about him. Unblock them all. What I want to ask is which media in Taiwan has the news you put on the shelves? The country will use the power of the state or the power of the judiciary to make your news completely disappear. So who is the dictatorship? I think the audience friends should have a ruler in their hearts. OK, then the whole thing seems to be removed. If you remove the group, it will be removed. Let’s take a look at all that has been announced . There are about 19 blue committee seats in Yizhong. Now it has passed the second level. If so , because we don’t know yet , it is not finalized yet. It is possible. Generally speaking, it is estimated to include maybe 20 to 25. All of this is so good. Now it has reached such a threshold . As soon as the second level passes, someone will ask why Xu Qiaoxin wants to collect the second-level co-signatures of the legislators from the 15th district. To some extent , it will raise the hatred level against the green camp. Because at this time, you have no reason to continue the cold war. By the end of the cold war, it will probably go into the freezer. That’s probably it. So everyone is fighting fiercely. Of course, Xu Qiaoxin’s every choice The district has his own characteristics , because Xu Qiaoxin’s side is originally a place where blue is stronger than green, so he will be dismissed. A big reason is because those blues who voted for him in the past are now coming out to remove him. What he wants to accept now is that he wants to intensify the blue matter again and remind those who were prepared to remove him in the past. Those who voted for him in blue before, we are one country now, we are together now , so I think his strategy is reasonable. What I am talking about now is to remove this co-signer. Of course, I just talked about it. Brother Xiao Wu said about 20 to 25. The latest one is our Yuan Zhi Yuan Zhi. In fact, it was very hard to finally break through to 32,000, especially on During the week, Yuanzhi’s district was in an emergency . The strike group was in an emergency because at first everyone was optimistic that his district would reach the standard early. However, he didn’t expect that many places would reach the standard. His district has not yet reached the standard, so it took about a week or two to push it out. He finally reached 137% of the legal threshold. Yi Zhong, you mentioned this, I want to ask. Because the strike group has been talking about one thing 426 just now Yuan Zhi said that there were many people who did not dare to come out because of fear. But everyone saw that there were indeed many people in that scene . There is no need to say that there are many people, there are just many people. No matter you say they are mobilized or something, there are people. But I also heard people who are on strike directly say that you urge more people to come out . The group is a place where action and reaction are the forces of action and reaction . Instead, because 426 is on the edge, many people are forced to come out more like this? Yes , and the one who had the biggest impact in that game was actually Zheng Zhengqian. Originally, Zheng Zhengqian was covering cards in Hsinchu. He found a bunch of migrant workers to go to that place for no reason. Now, probably tomorrow, they will Hsinchu will also announce that Zheng Zhengqian is probably OK , but I think this is not a problem because it has just started. In fact, as long as everyone works hard, they will basically pass the second level. In terms of their hatred value, deposing Hong Mengkai is even more powerful and reaches the 50,000 mark. I will report to you here why the group has to be dismissed. They have been emphasizing that they must Reaching more than 130% of the legal threshold is because the strike has been calculated. Normally speaking, they are saying that because they have considered it, that is, the legal threshold is 10%. But because they said that there may be duplicate signatures at the first level, 1% plus the previous level may have an error rate of 1% to 2% , so what they mean by catching 130% is basically If its number of copies can reach 130, then those who were mistakenly eliminated can basically be passed once and there is no need to make up for it. Therefore, they are now using the legal threshold of 130 as their standard for group strikes . In addition to this, I want to say that in fact, everyone should not underestimate it because it must be difficult for the Kuomintang to understand. Why is it that your Democratic Progressive Party can mobilize so many wings to help you ? You think too much Actually this time, the DPP was behind and the strike group was in front. The strike group was in the front, so the DPP had to follow the DPP. It is the flank . You can say that the DPP is the flank of the strike group. I’m serious. So the DPP came later and the People’s Republic of China followed. In the beginning, it was really these citizen groups. Why is the latest advertisement in Taiwan the tenth one? Action is actually the most touching one among the ten I have seen. Why is it because its protagonist is Balobo, the girl who ousted Luo Mingcai, named Qiqi. If you have seen the news, Qiqi was originally wearing a hat and a mask . But on March 26, at a press conference, he said that he He felt that he had to say that many people were facing that kind of danger and threat, and he felt that he had to expose it , so he took off his hat and mask and showed everyone this very touching advertisement. This latest advertisement features Qiqi. He uses his mother’s voice in it. His mother said that because of the boycott, many of the scenes we saw were of these women. 90% of volunteers are female volunteers. Female volunteers encounter many people in various markets and places . Some are beaten in the head, some are choked, and some are threatened. Then they say this is a place of the Kuomintang. Why don’t you remove me there? So this is actually full of those scenes. The video is more than two minutes long and shows all those scenes. That is to say, it actually makes people feel sorry for a mother . Qiqi’s mother said that she actually doesn’t want much. On the one hand, he thanks Qiqi for doing this. In fact, he just hopes that Qiqi can go home safely every night. This is what he uses. Then there is another strike group and they are the one Luo Mingcai, the volunteer there is called LuLu . My son said that he saw his mother like this outside every day , and he would inevitably be scolded if he was dismissed. In fact, he also felt sorry for the child. He said that he hoped he could grow up quickly and become a legislator and president. The purpose was to protect his mother, so he said thank you for protecting our mother. Taiwan, I tell you that the power of women is what makes this strike . It can touch so many people. Many people actually thought that you were too idle and indifferent at first to say that they were too busy to strike . But when those female volunteers appeared in the market again and again and called out softly, they were moved. So this time, the Kuomintang never understood why they could strike so closely. In the final analysis , there is no one who is behind the support. It is these girls , women and mothers who come out one by one. So this is this time. Then you know how serious the strike is. Let me show you another one. They are very strict on quality control , which means they are not saying whatever you want. Throw it out. Here is the one in Taitung. Let’s take a look at the co-signer’s letter to depose Huang Jianbin. The following one is said to be a figure in Chinese history. They have all come out. Who is Wei Zifu ? I don’t know who Wei Zifu is. Then netizens will help you note that it is Empress Xiaowu Wei, who is a very powerful person in history. Then the second one is Li Longji. Li Longji, who is also him? It is the real name of Emperor Xuanzong of the Tang Dynasty. The third Li Shimin is the real name of Emperor Taizong of the Tang Dynasty. The fourth one is Li Daliang. He said this is the prince of the Li family. Xie Xuan is the famous general of the Eastern Jin Dynasty. You are doing mischief over there. Look at the handwriting. The last word is the same except for the name of a historical figure . But what I am telling you now is that they are volunteers. They are very careful. When they see this kind of thing one by one, they will immediately eliminate it. So why their error rate is very low? Because even if someone If you want to mess around or make a joke, they will sort it out one by one, and they will even help you, that is, help you fill it out. He said that in fact, they can fill it out very quickly in 2 minutes . Then you only need the signatures of those who are willing to co-sign. But he said that many co-signers are willing to write it themselves. If there are any typos or typos in the writing, only that one will be reimbursed. So the volunteers will mark every word and if they make a mistake, they will have to start over again. They collect them one by one. They say this is a love letter to Taiwan. What I want to say is that the Kuomintang did not understand this matter . I still can’t figure it out. I thought of one thing. I want to share one more thing. I recently watched a movie called Drama. There is a plot in the drama. It is about those prisoners because Japan surrendered. They dug a pit and trench for them, threw the sick and injured prisoners into it , and shot him. Of course, there was a trial at the end . The prosecutor asked who did this. You know the commander told the deputy commander that the commander only told the deputy commander to do what should be done. In this way, the deputy commander only told the captain to do what should be done. Then the commander told the deputy commander that we didn’t say that, we just said to do what should be done. As for what they were going to do next. How did we know ? So this matter was in court. Later, after the prosecutor peeled off the cocoon and asked one by one, he said that you held a knife and forced me , so I had to shoot him. So what I am talking about now is to do what should be done. Everyone is now discussing that the Central Committee of the Kuomintang, including your city party headquarters , is Didn’t you just tell the order below that the roster should do what you should do here and then do it below ? Are you trying to get rid of this responsibility now? At the end of the video, the prosecutor said to the Japanese officer that you are a dignified Japanese officer. You still tell such lies now, but the officer later admitted What I mean is that he should be shot. Now , you senior officials of the Kuomintang and those who copied the rosters under you have been detained one by one. Then I ask you, is this system of yours someone from above who is instructing you to do what needs to be done? You have to come out and speak out. Isn’t it over there ? Everyone seems to be abdicating responsibility now . It has nothing to do with you. Yizhong , I will let you directly confront Yuanzhi about this because you just said that the Kuomintang has never understood why the boycott is so dense and then it wants to make it like this for Taiwan. Because Yuanzhi has said it many times in the program , Yuanzhi just explained that it is the DPP behind it. I remember Yuanzhi has this You have heard what Yizhong just said, especially when you said that 10 such videos will be released , and this one is also very touching , including the process, and those strike groups , but the Kuomintang , why don’t you have some strike groups like this that will come out to do such things and do these things in Yizhong’s eyes? I think it’s the Kuomintang and you can’t move people , so people are unwilling to do this. Is that so? Some of your groups have had very good long-term relationships with the DPP . The Presbyterian Church of the People’s Liberation Army , like the Presbyterian Church, received a lot of money from the government. This time, they played a key role in the boycotts in various places. The Kuomintang does not have these organizations. Of course, I think there are volunteers in Yizhongju , but most of them are also working-study students. I don’t have volunteers there and don’t get paid. I also have some working-study students there because some working-study students will talk to others and tell them. I have more than a dozen co-signers there because my supporters sometimes ask them, what are you doing there? Many people say how much an hour costs , so I think there is still a gap in resources. We distributed facial tissue in the wet market there, and then the Severn propaganda truck came out and dismissed the headquarters… I have already participated in many Bluebird movements in the middle of last year . I know that their organization is of course backed by the Presbyterian Church or something like that. This is true because these are the so-called citizen groups since the Sunflower era. You said they are better than the Green Camp . I agree. But the point is that the Green Camp has been scolded by them all the way. You know that recently many Green Camp civilian representatives have been named because their signatures have not reached the level in many places. They are directly naming names and saying that you, the democratic representatives of the green camp, are all over there and don’t come to help behind the scenes. So you know, that’s why I said that the strike group is in the front. Those party officials of the DPP are actually just following the opposite of the Chinese Kuomintang to a certain extent . In the past, there were many of you, whether it was the youth trade union system or you. Our citizens’ groups are ordinary citizens’ groups. Why can other people’s groups act like this step by step? Your citizens’ groups don’t even know what they are doing. I think this statement makes me very sad. I think the Kuomintang and your citizens’ group should work hard because why? Because of Ke Jianming, Ke Jianming himself blew himself up. He said that on January 13 last year After that, I discussed the general recall with Zhuo Rongtai and Lai Qingde. Then DPP spokesperson Zhuo Guanting said very proudly during the live broadcast a few days ago that as long as any DPP member from each district did not sign seriously, Lai Qingde would see it and it would come into Lai Qingde’s eyes . Lai Qingde attaches great importance to You just talked about the dismissal of KMT legislators, including Ke Jianming who proposed a general recall in January. In fact, the climate at that time was actually not very good at that time. The KMT was laughing at that time. In fact, the climate was not very good and they were on strike without sleep. They didn’t care. Do you think he didn’t understand? He did it on purpose, so it was chicken and egg after all. The egg-laying chicken means that after Ke Jianming started planning this matter, the blue bird flew out. Didn’t Lai Qingde often talk about blue and white… Will the blue bird fly out? So the blue bird can actually be summoned. So after Commissioner Ye Yuanzhi, you said that as long as all these young people who go to participate in that event are called blue birds , Do you support the DPP? In fact, not necessarily . Don’t underestimate the power of citizens and young people. The KMT is in this situation today because of this. The second one he just talked about is why these Presbyterian churches or these groups are closer to the DPP. You have to review the KMT yourself. Will the bluebird fly out? So the bluebird will fly out. Indeed, he can be summoned. So, Commissioner Ye Yuanzhi, you said that as long as all the young people who went to participate in that event were called Bluebirds , they all support the DPP. In fact, that is not necessarily the case. In fact, don’t underestimate the power of citizens and young people. It is because of this that the Kuomintang is in this situation today . The second thing he just said is why this is the case. Some Presbyterian churches or these groups are closer to the Democratic Progressive Party. The Kuomintang. You have to reflect on yourselves . Why don’t you think about these groups? You just said that you don’t have these organizations . As you just said, I said you should think about why you didn’t support these groups when you were in power for so long. To me, We really need to review that we did not use national resources to support you. There is no way to win the support of these young people and citizen groups. They do not fully support the DPP. Many young people are anti-DPP. Minfeng, can you tell me one thing? You have observed the enthusiasm or enthusiasm of the KMT from the past until now. He just talked about the enthusiasm of these groups next to him. Even Chairman Zhu has issued a military order, right ? What are you listed as assessments ? The flanks of the Kuomintang will be stimulated by some veterans groups or the group of people who changed in the new year. They are very similar to the flanks of the Kuomintang. But the question is why these people don’t come out this time . Are you doing what you did in the first year? This makes these people very strange. So these people sometimes jump to this point this year. Where is the so-called strike group? But I want to say that the command center for the operation of the strike group is really strong. I think the old man from the company really contributed money and efforts. He can gather in an office and have some interaction as a whole and some mutual assistance . He has flexibility. I tell you that if the DPP cannot do this, the so-called party will become a stalemate in the future. If you look at his party , for example, this side is full , and it is still announcing to Ye Yuanzhi because Ye Yuanzhi has not yet reached 50,000 or tens of thousands, so as soon as the strike group comes out, he can mobilize this side and that side to attack him all again. Then all the times of Ye Yuanzhi’s stalls are all on this table, so their machine The motivation is very high. When my side is full, I will go to support that side. Then they will not quarrel with each other, unlike Zhong Xiaoping and Zhong Peijun, right. They will also say that you said Zhongzheng Wanhua is right, and they will argue about why you paid 10,000 to sign a letter. People like Huang Lu will not talk about the group’s ambitions or work goals . It’s clear, but if you really join a political party, it will be complicated. However, because the first and second phases were all about strikes, they also said that they would withdraw in the third phase , so after withdrawing, no one would need to vote. You see, it rained that day. Last Saturday, I was also in Da’an District, Wenshan. There are a lot of strike groups out there shopping there . It’s raining or whatever. But Luo Zhiqiang in Da’an has obviously passed by, but they still continue to work hard. Wearing raincoats and setting up stalls there, you know that enthusiasm is not that people from the party department can support it. People from the party department, I think, are like congressmen or those democratic representatives. They must go through their own existing organization to sign something. They will not bother to set up a stall with you on the roadside. So today you are saying that you misjudged the motivation and motivation of the entire strike from the beginning , and you did not defuse the bombs you made earlier. Explanation : What’s the use of pretending to be good until now ? Minfeng, let me ask you, this time at the second level, including the entrepreneur you just talked about, the old entrepreneur’s anti-communism is a main axis of the second level this time, right? At the third level, this matter will change because of the third level. It must be the blue camp. Just now Yuan Zhi also said that they are now preparing for everyone to fight a hot war . What if the next step is to go to the third stage and then the anti-communist matter will become a main axis in the third stage of the recall vote . I think it should still be, and then there will be more things in the Congress, or it will be dual lines, because anti-communist seems to be quite useful this time, so I think it will continue. So what should the Kuomintang do with the Kuomintang? Because the Kuomintang, the Kuomintang , the Kuomintang, the good people call this Their people will still go to cross-strait exchanges. Just like everyone, during this process, someone will name and say that the Kuomintang still has a vice chairman. At this time, he is talking to Xia Liyan. At this time, he is talking to Song Tao or who is still talking to the Kuomintang about what to do. So in the third stage, they are still like this The topic will still be beaten, so I have been fascinated by Zhu Lilun’s operation for a while. I don’t understand what he is doing at all , so he said that removal is not possible , but that it is possible to overthrow the government. You just need to convince the white camp , and according to the current situation of the DPP, it will not dissolve Congress for you, but it is possible to overthrow the government. Increase your momentum because you keep saying that I will give you more money than last year. Your cabinet will not do anything. If you are bad , you should collapse the cabinet. But you don’t do it , and you have more than half of the people, which is enough. But you don’t do it, and then you make a high-profile statement and say Lai Qing is dismissed. Germany , then I don’t know whether Zhu Lilun is crazy or something else . Then it is clear that everyone is attacking you on both sides of the Taiwan Strait , and now you have to organize the 20th anniversary of the Hu Hui Hui , and then keep talking about Lai Qingde, your dream of Taiwan independence will not succeed, Lai After Qingde became president, which of the things he did was to promote Taiwan independence ? It was like he was wallowing in it as if he had taken psychedelic drugs. Even the chairman was very confused, so he kept spinning and spinning, so he couldn’t spin out. To be honest, you should be more pragmatic. Now I ask you what benefits the Communist Party has given to the Kuomintang. Maybe there are many resources, which is correct , but overall those resources do not constitute the basic element for you to win the election. Especially at this critical time, you should at least avoid some disadvantageous factors from a practical point of view, right? People are so stupid. There is some kind of board in front of me, so I insisted on getting it up. I don’t know what you are going to do. How about I say a word to Yizhong? Zhu Lilun, don’t talk about fake issues like recalling the president, and Huang Guochang. You are now dismissed. You can overthrow the government as long as the Kuomintang’s 54 plus the Kuomintang’s 8 are 62. You don’t have to worry about Lai Qingde, because of course it is Lai Qingde’s right to dissolve the Congress. But I want to know if you can succeed in overthrowing the government . If Lai Qingde doesn’t dissolve the government. If the Congress is dissolved, at least Zhuo Rongtai is here. You can at least use this method to make the society feel that you are courageous. Don’t be afraid. If Lai Ching-te really dissolves the Congress , there will be re-election. What is there to fear about re-election? You must be confident that you will get 76 seats. If so, you and even Lai Qingde can depose you, but you don’t dare to hug each other and be looked down upon by others. No wonder you are defeated like a mountain when those volunteers are walking step by step on the road. You have also deposed Huang Guochang and Huang Jie in the past. You also have citizens. You also have a group of land combat groups. Where are they now? I am still a little bit surprised about Zhu Lilun because everyone is about to enter the third level. Entering the third level is very serious. You should quickly and actively engage in the third level. This strategy depends on how to deal with land combat and then how to deal with air combat . It is mainly based on land warfare , but your entire party group should be involved, and removal cannot raise funds. Your party central committee is responsible for a lot of financial flows. Now you actually launch a military order to sign the second level of the Green Committee to recall the second level of the Green Committee. Don’t you think this time and space inversion is strange? OK ? General, I want to tell you why the Kuomintang is so miserable. Brother Xiao Wu just talked about whether anti-communism in the third level will become a goal of the so-called core of the third level. Why ? Because the Chinese Kuomintang has been changing a concept. When we were soldiers during the march in 1972, we had a slogan called to eliminate all evil communist bandits. Is there a slogan called to eliminate Taiwan independence elements but not eliminate them? The evil communist bandits will always be above Taiwan’s independence. At that time, we thought that if the communist bandits were eliminated, there would be no Taiwan independence . Why was the Kuomintang so miserable? Brother Xiao Wu just talked about whether the third level of anti-communism would become a so-called core goal of the third level. Why? Because the Chinese Kuomintang has been changing a concept. When we were soldiers during the march in 1972 of the Republic of China, we had a slogan called eliminate all evil communist bandits. Is there a slogan to eliminate Taiwan independence elements? Failure to eliminate all evil communist bandits will always be above Taiwan independence. At that time , we thought that if the communist bandits were eliminated, there would be no Taiwan independence . This was the education we received at that time . But how is the Kuomintang doing it now? It equates the Republic of China to the People’s Republic of China and the People’s Republic of China to the 1992 Communist Party. We are all waiting for the understanding that Xi Jinping is equal to one country, two systems . So if you support Xi Jinping in the Chinese Kuomintang, you are not guilty. You are not guilty of supporting the 1992 Consensus. Even if you support the Taiwan plan of one country, two systems , he can accept it. However, there is one thing that cannot be accepted. Taiwan independence is what the Democratic Progressive Party calls non-party people. There is no way to be the president . They said they wanted to overthrow the Republic of China , so at that time we opposed Taiwan independence. But now Tsai Ing-wen and Lai Ching-te have become two presidents in the ninth year in total . Are you still overthrowing the Republic of China? Lian Shengwen said that if it weren’t for the Kuomintang, the cross-strait military conflict would have been focused. Lian Shengwen said that if it hadn’t been for the Kuomintang, the military conflict would have been the focus. If the car skin did not have this brake pad, the Chinese Communist Party would have attacked Taiwan long ago. So, who was the most fiercely attacked by the Chinese Communist Party? The Chinese Kuomintang came to Taiwan because you defeated the Kuomintang and the Communist Party in the civil war. That’s why I was born here. If it weren’t for the Kuomintang, how could China be lost? That’s right. If the Kuomintang didn’t have it, then shouldn’t we talk about this? If he is so promising, he will win. I was born in Shandong. I was not born here, so you still say that I came to Taiwan because fortunately there is the Chinese Kuomintang , so I became a brake pad. Why don’t you say that the Chinese Kuomintang brought the war to Taiwan ? If there was no Chinese Kuomintang, would there be a war in Taiwan? This is completely called reversal. But then Lian Shengwen also spoke very loudly, saying that I am Taiwanese and also Chinese. It has been several generations since Lian Shengwen moved to Taiwan, starting from Lian Yatang, and you are still saying this for so many generations. Let me tell you why more and more Taiwanese people think that I am a Taiwanese, and I am not a citizen of the Communist Party of China. I disdain you because China ‘s perverse behavior toward Taiwan has caused such pressure. Even so many of the Kuomintang who were anti-communist at the time have become pro-communist, which makes everyone sad and makes everyone sad. Teacher Yizhong also feels sad for the Kuomintang. There is no need to encourage the Kuomintang. They will not come back. So I say it is difficult for the Kuomintang to reconcile with the people of Taiwan now , but with It is easy for the Chinese Communist Party to bow its head. This is the key factor why so many legislators of the Chinese Kuomintang were dismissed one by one in the third stage . If the third stage just talked about fighting a hot war and then included the main axis of anti-communism, would it really be such a disadvantage for you? Of course we are anti-communist , but the green ones will always be red. As far as I’m concerned, I just take good care of my constituency. I haven’t been to the Taiwan Affairs Office of China in 10 or 20 years and I don’t know anyone. Then the propaganda truck keeps saying that we are complicit in bandits. This is to smear red. For us, all our lives, property and family are here. We don’t care about where we are. This is a means of struggle. I think it is a means of struggle. Why do we always talk about this issue? It’s hard to talk about internal affairs. For example, how does Trump’s policy affect Taiwan’s economy? Has the government come up with any countermeasures ? Everyone is reviewing this matter now . Then we will see what Japan does, what South Korea does, and then we will see what Taiwan does. What do you think? It seems that Taiwan’s approach is softer than that of Japan and South Korea. It seems that we accept whatever the United States says. In fact, everyone has a lot of opinions on this matter and the government . There are also energy issues. How about your nuclear power? Guo Zhihui said today and yesterday when he was interviewed by the media that it would be easy to amend the law to extend the nuclear service . If you want to make a small furnace , you have to deal with many internal affairs issues that are difficult to talk about. So what to do? It’s very simple. You can just be a CCP passerby . Anyway, according to Chen Yuzhen, there are more CCP passers-by than passers-by. Now, as long as the opinions are different from those of the DPP, all CCP passers-by are all CCP passers-by. But I think this trick has been used for a long time. It has been used for a long time, so it is a bit blunt, so in the third stage, the DPP will not continue to fight like this. But I think this trick is a bit blunt after a long time. Then the DPP is now being questioned, are you sincerely anti-communist? If you are sincerely anti-communist, why are there so many communist spies in the DPP ? He didn’t seriously try to catch someone as important as Wu Zhaoxie’s assistant. In that position, he could see a lot of confidential telegrams, but he only did a loyalty check once every eight years. Shouldn’t you take this matter very seriously? Why does it seem like you don’t pay much attention to communist spies ? In fact, whether the Chinese Kuomintang is pro-communist or anti-communist will be deeply felt by the people. This cannot deceive people . If you are not pro-Communist, I will ask you Fu Kunqi. During the conference, you took so many people there to bow and shake hands. You can still see those images. The second thing is that in the past two days, the exiled writer Professor Yuan Hongbing has also come out to say that he is now even a member of the Communist Party of China. Even the Chinese Communist Party’s own internal assessment said that he called a name and said that there are so- called 15-seat CCP agent legislators within the Kuomintang. Professor Yuan Hongbing wrote it like this . If he wrote like this, then why wouldn’t he write that there are so-called CCP agent legislators in our Democratic Progressive Party ? This is what I feel now. Even the Chinese Communist Party feels that you are on the same side as them . So this is a presentation of facts. How can you believe the words of the Chinese Communist Party? You are not anti-communist. If you don’t believe it, you won’t go to China. If we have communist spies here, come and arrest them. And how many people have taken advantage of China? If the Kuomintang has communist spies, come and arrest them quickly. Don’t use insinuations. We are also arresting the judiciary . Otherwise, why are those involved in communist espionage cases now in custody? The investigation under investigation, so there is absolutely no talk about whether it is better to do blue or green. Then we enter the third stage . Why do we enter the third stage? I just wanted to talk about these citizen groups. I will talk about one. In fact, they are really going to take it out now and compare it with the Kuomintang. This can be revealed by you. Look, this is the latest thing that happened today. You know that when these citizen groups, everyone on strike against the Blue Committee, are serious about setting up stalls every day, you know that in the Kuomintang , Lai Yi lets them do whatever they want. He just spends money, and he uses the so-called mailbox to deliver this matter , and what else? This was directly thrown on the desk of the security guard in the security building . This was written directly by the people in this community. So what I want to ask is, does the Kuomintang now even have security guards to help you do KPI? Of course it’s not possible to organize activities? He directly wrote that all his signature stations were at MRT stations. Compared with ordinary citizen groups of blue strike committees, people just held up that small sign outside Tamsui MRT station and were driven away. How could you just let you people do it and then go and play with it ? The situation of the law is to challenge the public power. After Renjun enters the third stage at the last minute , it can be predicted that the country will be affected because it seems that the strike of the Blue Committee will probably be on the same day. If the Kuomintang wants to actively strike out the Green Committee, of course they also hope to be able to do so on the same day. If it is really assumed that the strike of the Blue Committee will be on the same day. There will be 20 to 25 seats being recalled in a day . For the whole country, it is almost like entering another election, which is an organizational war. To be honest, this so-called hatred value or something has reached the second level. After you talk about the third level, you still want to encourage that hatred value. Basically, I don’t think it is very effective. Because for Lanying, his organization can only tell people in the third stage. Before the second stage, all the voices of opposition appeared. I have been talking about why Zhu Lilun suddenly throws out a plan to remove Lai Qingde at this time , that is, you come back. The same is true when looking at Xu Qiaoxin’s tactics in the past. I just mentioned that Xu Qiaoxin was either trying to bring in some entrepreneur in the earliest days or was constantly PKing him. Why did he create an enemy ? Why didn’t the Kuomintang use Lai Qingde as this person today ? Maybe they will follow a similar pattern to remove someone later. The way he did it was to remove Lai Qingde, hoping that his supporters would give the Kuomintang supporters an imaginary enemy instead of just being limited to one of their own constituencies. I think this will certainly test, for example, the situation just mentioned by Yuan Zhi , you are today If you want to launch a general recall , what you set your sights on is to say that I will come to calculate today for you to recall the DPP legislator. Why are the Kuomintang people in that district so lazy? Because honestly speaking, why should they protect the people in the Yuanzhi District ? Or why should they go to other districts in the Yuanzhi District? It’s none of his business in the district. As for his voters, I don’t live there. What those committee members do has nothing to do with me. So you can see why his organization has not been able to move outside until now. Because for many people, it doesn’t concern them at all, so I think he should However, what I want to shape is when it comes to the third-level voting, because now it seems that because the blue camp, probably the blue committee members who are about to be dismissed, basically have not been returned after the first-level delivery, so if you calculate the time schedule, it is more likely to be highly concentrated in this place to shape a new straw. Sorry. I’m not saying that Zhong Xiaoping is a straw. Just create a straw target so that his Kuomintang can have a centralized statement . The main thing to urge is to return to the organizational vote . Then, depending on the time, it will probably be about the same. The group strike will probably be sent to the election meeting in the next few days . So in the end, wait for the election meeting to confirm. In the future , how many Blue Committee seats will enter the third stage, how many Green Committee seats will enter the third stage , and what kind of atmosphere will the entire country have after the third stage. We all will wait and see. Thank you very much to all the guests present , and thank you very much to the audience for watching the news. We will see you tomorrow. Bye Bye
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台灣本來就是獨立主權的國家，不容侵略。台灣自古以來就不是中國的一部分。台灣海峽是國際海域，不容霸佔。若台灣不是獨立主權的國家的話，那麼，中國國民黨就要去跳海了。若台灣不是獨立主權的國家的話，那麼，中華民國亡於1949年了。
葉凹之嫌罷免連署書還不夠多
繼續凹真的全黨去了了
國民黨的邏輯千錯萬錯都是賴清德的錯
台灣真的需要中立的媒體❤、只要中立、只講事實我就看
國民黨所有的違法都是個案，228跟白色恐怖是不是也是個案???都個案啦，那次不個案??
有這樣有法律常識的主持人很難得、希望給民眾清楚知道一些法律觀念
葉元之是個舉手立委，是個沙發上的馬鈴薯。任何違憲擴權的法案，亂砍預算的法案，他通通舉手或按鈴通過，刪了國家多少預算也不知道。而他卻領了台灣人民的納稅錢一個月二十多萬元。
國民黨抄襲、作弊、濫用公權力，到現在還不承認錯誤！不道歉！不思反省，實在太傲慢了😤
完全挑戰人民的基本道德底線！令人憤怒🤬
葉元之說國民黨的支持者因為害怕不敢出聲，但國民黨的支持者卻非常敢對罷免的志工動手動腳罵髒話？國民黨不譴責暴力行為的當下就是默許暴力行為的發生，所以你說國民黨的支持者不敢出聲不是很好笑？
所在謝國樑罷免案時，是否市長有利用罷免連署名冊去警告或騷擾恐嚇支持罷免謝國樑市長的市民。太恐怖了
為什麼葉先生一直鬼打牆😂 我是百分之一千萬純中間選民，所以絕對客觀的我的立場，我覺得身旁一堆朋友只是路人，當時一直在社群組織罷免藍委，所以我不覺得都是綠策劃，但柯建民確實說過他期許這一切並打算計畫，說這句話也真是莫名其妙，現在再來聲稱沒有策劃？所以要怎麼說服這一切綠的沒多少介入？一出事就說中共，也是醉了，看不出來賴總統上任後有做好什麼事情，然後只要黨內反對聲音，就感覺會被攻擊，有夠強勢，真有病，但也謝謝其他兩黨的亂搞，使得他的罪行相形見絀。然後葉先生說他被抹紅，因為他是反共，但國民黨裡面很多人都間接公開不反共呀，抹紅自己的就是自己，是在哭夭什麼。再來就是世紀不要臉黃國昌，整個扭曲事情，為了自己利益，可以做到如此前後不一，簡直跟激進支持者一樣低能😂這些年輕小草，我建議你們從國昌哥哥正常的時候開始翻，看他如何變身，不要只看後面以為他很好，他真的沒有喔。
之前是結果論，現在是行爲論
之前偽造文書要導致損害才有罪
現在是選罷法喔，只要偽造連署就是罪
葉元之繼續跟著這爛黨硬凹，活該下去
Thomas Sowell有個類似的例子：NBA黑人球員抗議裁判歧視黑人，因為超過九成的被判犯規都是黑人。
這葉罷汁被罷有理，睜眼說瞎話，
以前常常聽老人說國民黨很下幹，但是現在才知道說的都是真的
為何 葉元之 能當立委 影響立委素質？？？
不罷凹之，聽它鬼扯？
葉拗之你就繼續拗好了，什麼翁曉玲修的法是要附身分證後才適用？到底有沒認真看過你們自己修的法？附身分證是連署階段的事情，但翁為了連署造假所修的是刑責的部分，而且已經公布為現行法規了，真的有夠爛，啥都不懂罷掉剛好而已🙄
既凹之 則罷之 噁心到極點 葉凹之
葉原汁也不看看其他人的表情，講的大家都直接傻眼
葉元之上節目一直幫自己的罷免催贊成票，多上幾次增加仇恨值❤😊
憲法雖保障人民有組織政黨的自由，
但政黨的組織及運作應符合民主原則，
並以維護自由民主憲政秩序為要旨。
警察機關將特別針對特定政黨涉入犯罪組織運作分子，
提供內政部作為依法查處聲請解散之依據；
只要該犯罪組織持續運作，警察機關打擊行動絕不會停止。
又來了 每一集都在 以前 現在 以後不用找他們了 隨便找一位都會說了 只要說一句 不是嘛以前就沒事現在為什麼就有事 說千萬遍了 國民黨永遠不知悔改 關鍵是 去年才修的新法！ 你們自己修的法 就要吞下去啦！
誰才是三合一敵人？
(1985成功嶺寒訓莒光日)
40年前解嚴前夕
國民黨為保
一黨專政獨裁
推出了
三合一敵人洗腦口號
結果
民主自由法治派
跟
專制獨裁派
共識
國共一樣爛,西瓜選大邊
2025
綠共（就是只有绿色敢反共~）
49反共剿匪
民主自由法治
大聯盟
VS
人一白藍又蠢又壞
426 國民黨不敢反共
（中華人民共和國憲法第一條
中國共產黨領導是中國特色社會主義最本質的特徵。）
反共剿匪（白藍）大罷免
三合一敵人
(1988成功嶺寒訓莒光日)
沒有要反攻復國消滅中華人民共和國
又不敢回中國歸順中共殖民當奴隸
那你不就是個台獨份子嗎？
那你還有啥理由支持
被追殺流亡來台反認賊作父的國民黨的必須呢？
台灣遣返武統三中配
中國統戰失敗
統戰組織兩部長互調
百年禍國殃民的國共兩黨的憲法戰争
1949共產黨放棄‘人民當家作主’的神主牌
2024國民黨違法毀憲放棄自認獨步世界的五權憲法
反舔共
那首先要下架認賊作父的國民黨
其次按照性賄賂論罪跟污點證人法
除內奸
不反舔共
你要批評別人舔共
有錢拿有女人睡
而你沒有？！
想當舔狗
還沒人要
這才搞笑
台灣遣返武統三中配
中國統戰失敗
統戰組織兩部長互調
百年禍國殃民的國共兩黨的憲法戰争
1949共產黨放棄‘人民當家作主’的神主牌
2024國民黨違法毀憲放棄自認獨步世界的五權憲法
一個敢侵入民政系統的國民黨，你還敢讓他執政嗎？
113年12月20日立法院三讀通過之公職人員選舉罷免法修正條文於114年2月18日公布施行，中選會表示，上開法律修正，增列提議人及連署人於提議及連署時應附國民身分證正反面影本之規定，該會已配合修正「公職人員罷免案提議連署及查對作業辦法」及提議人名冊及連署人名冊格式。
中選會指出，此次公職人員選舉罷免法修正，增訂公職人員罷免案提議人及連署人於提議及連署時應附國民身分證正反面影本，配合前開法律修正條文之公布施行，該會修正「公職人員罷免案提議連署及查對作業辦法」，增列提議人名冊及連署人名冊未附國民身分證正反面影本不予受理，及國民身分證影本資料不明或影印不清晰致不能辨認應予刪除等規定，提議人名冊及連署人名冊格式，則增列黏貼國民身分證正反面影本之規定。前開辦法修正條文亦將施行，修正後提議人名冊格式已上傳中選會網站「選舉罷免表單下載」專區，此類資訊皆依法公開。
中選會說明，公職人員選舉罷免法修正公布施行日起提出之公職人員罷免案，適用新修正之法律規定；至於前開法律修正公布施行前提出之公職人員罷免案，依該法第131條規定，仍適用修正前之規定。
最後，中選會提醒此次公職人員選舉罷免法修法也新增利用他人個人資料偽造、假冒提議或連署者，處5年以下有期徒刑之規定，請民眾務必遵守法律規定，以免觸法。
國民黨就是把不支持他們的民眾全部不當人看 所以表現出來的就是這麼目無中人的態度
主持人已經給很多次機會要點醒葉原汁了，可憐原汁執迷不悟，乖乖下去吧
組織犯罪防制條例所稱之犯罪組織，係指3人以上，以實施強暴、脅迫、詐術、恐嚇為手段或最重本刑逾5年有期徒刑之刑之罪，所組成具有持續性或牟利性之有結構性組織。
前項有結構性組織，係指非為立即實施犯罪而隨意組成，不以具有名稱、規約、儀式、固定處所及成員持續參與或分工明確為必要，組織犯罪防制條例第2條定有明文。
故犯罪組織係聚合3人以上所組成，在一定期間內存在以持續性發展實施特定手段犯罪、嚴重犯罪活動或達成共同牟取不法金錢或利益而一致行動之有結構性組織。
但其組織不以有層級性結構，成員亦不須具有持續性資格或有明確角色、分工等正式組織類型為限，衹須非為立即實施犯罪而隨意組成者，即屬之，藉以區別正犯、共犯或結夥犯之概念。
但聚合之多數人在本質上仍屬共同正犯（聚合犯），且因組織性犯罪聚合多數人之力，對於公共秩序、人民權益之侵害較諸個人犯罪更加嚴重，為維護社會秩序，保障人民權益，立法者乃制定組織犯罪防制條例以防制組織犯罪（同條例第1條）。
元之說 之前都偷錢沒被抓. 所以現在偷錢也不能抓.??? 二歲小孩的理論嗎?
敏鳳好派，我好喜歡😂
原汁沒料
板橋選出這種人真丟臉 自己修法了 法務機關執行了 百姓討論了 結果他說:你們不要當法盲
葉元之：我是誰，我在哪。你們是誰？民進黨迫害
我想跟阿罷之說，藍營被法辦，是因為翁大上人修法，就算是輕罪，作弊就是作弊違規就是違規。
葉元之是猜拳猜輸所以才來節目擺爛嗎
國民黨現在唯一的策略就是把民進黨抹成獨裁/行政干涉司法/用行政資源養網軍培養勢力。
其實就是自己內部一直有人講不出反共，實質上也是做親共的事。
我相信葉元之沒有親共，因為他講反共講得很自然，而且他太小咖😂。但你去看看立法院那幾個立委，不僅不敢說反共，而且什麼提案跟政策都是向中國靠攏，只能說講都可以講，但你真正做的事是什麼大家都看在眼裡。
國民黨你們只要出來說：有沒有抄黨員名冊，有沒有統一給名冊，整天在那邊扯東扯西的，看著就討厭🤮
教育大博士聽不懂國語嗎？？名單個資有沒有外洩也不確定，還修法附身份證？？方便抄個資嗎？？
葉元之 不罷掉不行
這樣的法律認知 沒有能力當立法委員
控制檢調是哪個黨阿 作賊的喊抓賊 可憐 民進黨真的很可惡
基隆市長讓我們知道,沒罷掉沒能力的公務人員有多恐怖!!
要成為一個 優質的節目，就不該任由 來賓 胡言亂語，睜眼說瞎話。 🧐
為什麼「政論節目」的來賓可以不評論個案？通告費還給製作單位
一定要罷免葉元之 太過分了
法律有一個原則
【不可主張不法之平等】
今年真的是法盲元年
葉元之的指控
都只是在地方上聽到
拜託拿點證據出來
葉元之硬詏自己心裡比較好過嗎？ 面對真相吧，被罷免活該
2024到現在國會毀憲亂政國人都看在眼裡，邏輯錯亂一事無成，言行都和中共”不謀而合”，以本土黑金勢力結盟奉為總召。講真話就被抹成青鳥側翼綠共…真獨裁就是藍白
大勢已去給自己留個尊嚴吧，自己退出政壇