【最高の壁役】大狂乱のゴムネコが遂に無敗編成から旅立つ時が来てしまいそうです 【にゃんこ大戦争】
Riceball x New Talent Orb. This video explains how the relationship between Manic Eraser and Riceball has changed significantly from a Perfect Lineup perspective with the implementation of the new Talent Orb. To reiterate, here is the current Perfect Lineup v5 lineup. Manic Eraser, Jiangshi, Cameraman, Balrog, and King of Extinction Phono are the base 5.
Dawnbringer Izanagi, a free frame for the Lasvoss easy fighter who makes up for the 0.1% that can’t win. It’s been a total of 8 years since the first Perfect Lineup was released in v5.
This video still feels like it happened yesterday (big lie). I wonder how many of the cat players who watched this strategy in real time are still playing today. (I feel a little uncomfortable that Awakened Bahamut is not showing any explosions anymore). From the first lineup to v5, many units have been replaced, but there is one unit that has remained unchanged from the beginning to this point in time. It is “Manic Eraser Cat”. All units except Manic Eraser, Jizo, and Mitama were replaced until v4, Jizo left in v4.2, and Mitama left in v5… Manic Eraser is the only one that has remained. Manic Eraser is a unit that is more like the water supply for The Battle Cats than a strong unit.
There are a lot of enemies that are made based on the HP standard of this unit, and it is one of the basic units. And for the past 8 years, it has not been strengthened once since I put it in the first lineup.
Since it became possible to make it to Lv.50 by clearing An Ancient Curse, it has not been strengthened at all until now. As an indirect enhancement, stats were raised a little by the addition of Foundation and Style.
However, there is no direct Talent implementation or Lv.60 release. Manic Eraser has always been at the forefront of the Perfect Lineup as a wallflower, but it seems that with Ver. 14.3, it may be realistic to expect Manic Eraser to retire from that position. The new Talent Orb, Riceball Cat, is about to take Manic Eraser’s place. The new Talent Orb was implemented in Ver. 14.3.
Wave resist, Knockback resist, Death mini-surge, Cashback, Legendary Enhancement, and Colossus Slayer. The most interesting and most popular Talent Orb is the death mini-surge Talent Orb, but the main focus this time is the cashback Talent Orb. The main focus of this issue is the Cash-Back Talent Orb. The Cash-Back Talent Orb, simply explained, is a Talent Orb that refunds a portion of the sortie cost when a unit you produced dies. The Talent Orb can be attached to units with high production cost per second to reduce the production cost. The most common money-spending unit is Cyborg Cat.
It spends about 410 yen per second when you hit it repeatedly. However, Riceball Cat, a high-cost wall player, is also a unit that benefits from the cash-back Talent Orb. Riceball is a 2-second production unit with a cost of 300 yen.
Manic Eraser costs 150 yen, so even Jiangshi, which costs twice as much, costs 225 yen. The biggest differentiating factor was the fact that for twice the cost, the Talent implementation provides various types of debuff immunity. Now that Talent Orb can be set, HP can also make a big difference against Talent Orb-compatible attributes. However, the double cost was a big difference as a wall player, but with the cash-back Talent Orb, the future is coming soon to close the gap. Lv.50 stats comparison between Manic Eraser and Riceball is as follows.
Riceball has all Talents released except for ATK power up. In this condition, as mentioned above, Riceball has multiple debuff immunity instead of double the cost.
HP is also about 3,500 higher. The slight increase in ATK power is a bit of a hindrance to this lineup, although it will only affect the King of Extinction Phono buildup. As for speed, Riceball is 4 times faster than Manic Eraser, but Manic Eraser’s speed 20 is the same as his partner Jiangshi, which is also an advantage. I’ll leave that point as no preference for now. Riceball can be set with a Talent Orb.
Manic Eraser is currently not implemented with Talent, so it cannot be set to anything. The difference between the Talent Orb and the Talent Orb is huge. If you set a 50% refundable cash-back Talent Orb on Riceball, you will get back half of the production cost (150 yen) for every two Riceballs. The production cost per unit will be 225 yen, a 25% discount.
The cost difference with Manic Eraser is now 75 yen, 1.5 times the cost of Manic Eraser. We didn’t get to the point where the cost is the same as Manic Eraser, but we have been able to alleviate the funding problem. Whether this 75 yen difference works for the money-losing STAGE is one of the key points when making a final decision on whether to go with Manic Eraser or Riceball. However, not all stages are out of money, and if you can afford to play Riceball in other stages, you don’t need the cash-back Talent Orb. In such a case, the Talent Orb, which reduces damage, comes into play.
Although it is only for one attribute, it can increase the real HP to 36,450. This is about 1.4 times the HP of Manic Eraser.
Incidentally, if Foundation is also set, Riceball has 42,882 HP and Manic Eraser has 30,052 HP. So, to summarize, Riceball now has 11,000 more HP than Manic Eraser, and can have various immunity abilities. Sometimes it can have HP +3,500 and various immunity abilities, while keeping the cost difference with Manic Eraser at 75 yen. Since we play by the rule of replacing Talent Orb as needed, the ability to set Talent Orb is a huge advantage. With the new Talent Orb, this advantage has become even greater.
Well, I hope Manic Eraser will implement Talent as soon as possible. I hope Manic Eraser will get Talent soon. Bahamut and Valkyrie Cat also have Talent, and it would not be a bad idea if the crazed units get Talent too. The situation in which Manic Eraser will be completely superior even with the addition of Talent Orb is when fighting against an enemy who will be killed instantly by both Manic Eraser’s HP and Riceball’s HP. No matter how high the HP is or how much debuff immunity you have, if you are killed instantly, it is the same.
In this case, the difference in cost will affect your wallet more directly than usual. If this happens in a stage where you are short of money, it can be fatal. As mentioned above, the major focus is whether a difference of ¥75 can work in a money-losing STAGE. Incidentally, the main item this time is the cash-back Talent Orb, but of course other new Talent Orbs can be set in Riceball. Death mini-Surge ← almost pointless Legendary enhancement ← no longer needed.
knockback resist ←Not useful since it has knockback immunity. wave resist ←meaningful, but wave countermeasures have already been provided by other units.
Colossus Slayer ← Depends on when a stage with strong Colossus enemies comes out in the future. I think the best solution is the cash-back Talent Orb. And speaking of Riceball, combos are also a strong feature of this game.
Research Power combo with Arcane Commissioner Gravicci, HP up combo with Kai, and so on. If Dawnbringer Izanagi, who is currently a facilitator, has to be replaced by Arcane Commissioner Gravicci in the future, he can use his combo power. Since the zombie killer role is what we need most in this lineup right now. Arcane Commissioner Gravicci, who has a research power combo, a zombie killer, and a promising Sage Slayer, is a very suitable candidate for this role, including the case of Riceball. It’s not impossible to see that happening in the future.
But at this point, I don’t plan to do so at all, since the six of them up to Lasvoss will do the job. I hope Manic Eraser will continue to do well as long as there are no major changes in the situation that would make us have to consider adopting Riceball in earnest. I would be most happy to see Manic Eraser implement Talent before the change comes.
I would like to see Talent Orb set. That’s all.
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22 Comments
嘘、だろ?
絶体嘘松!!そうに決まってる!
エイプリルフールはもう過ぎたぞ!
みんなじゃあねじゃない、「今までありがとう」…ね
実装当初から最前線に立ち続けて
ほとんど何も強化を得ずここまでやってきて尚ガチ勢の7さんに「水道的な存在」と言わしめる大狂ゴムがいかに凄いかがわかる
金欠ステージに通用するランクのキャッシュバック本能玉を7さんが得るのが先か、大狂ゴムに本能が実装されるのが先か…
初代無敗編成懐かしすぎる
やっぱ7さんといえば無敗編成系とカービィbgmのイメージがある
大狂乱に本能きたら良いんだけどなー
ずっと前からにぎりしか使ってない勢からしたら、だろうなって感じ
そもそもキャッシュバックの本能玉ないからできない😢
これは完全に私情なんだけど大狂ゴムは一生最強の壁役であってほしい
なので運営さん次のアプデで大狂ゴムの体力本能をですね…
真面目な話基本や狂乱組はほぼ全員ステータス足りなくて使う機会が激減してるし本能でステータス1.8倍とかやっていいと思う
ここまで一回も強化来てないのに頑張ってる大狂乱ゴムねこにはお疲れ様って言ってあげるほうが正しいかもしれない
0:49 それなすぎる
無敗編成出た当初からずっお追ってるよ7さん
大乱闘大狂乱ファミリーズで本能追加待ってます
強化無しでここまで耐えてたのがおかしい定期
ゴムは本能だけじゃなく有用なコンボも特に無くてその身一つだけでここまでやってきたのが素晴らしい
早く本能で体力1.8倍になってね
6:15 ジャラミ強化してほしいなぁ…(願望)
bgmめっちゃカービィ
v1編成懐かしすぎだろ…‼️
それでも俺はゴムを使う
前の真田、白ミタマ、黒キャスみたいに無敗編成のキャラが変わる伏線なのかもしれない…
復活の偽呪文のステージの時のBgmわかる方いますか?
これがテセウスの無敗編成か…