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The Miami Marlins have struggled due to a combination of factors including a lack of investment in players, which leads to a weaker roster and poor on-field performance, particularly with injuries and a lack of star power. Compounding these issues are inconsistent offensive and defensive performance, a lack of a winning culture, and the challenge of competing with Miami’s many other entertainment options and a strong baseball culture rooted in other cities.
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Marlins aren't going anywhere. They are "stuck" with the new stadium lease. They can't move. What then need is ownership consistency. Fingers crossed they have it now
Marlins are not moving any time soon. They not only have a lease with Loan Depo park but that was paid for mostly with tax payer money. I kind of though the solution would be to contract the Marlins or move them to Nashville and let the Rays move to Miami. Problem will still be that Florida is very in different to pro sports in general, even when the Heat were good they had bad attendance. People in Florida have too many other options and most would rather be out at the beach or something. Miami seems to be major event driven like the World Baseball Classic, or the Super Bowl. Otherwise they don't seem to care much.
Montreal Expos south.
Imo what can fix the Marlins. New ownership, something around the ballpark besides a shell gas station and Walgreens and keep players then trading them
They have new ownership. Is your argument that everyone who buys the team just happens to be a cheapskate? They overpaid for the franchise and Jeter discovered that running a team isn’t quite so easy without the Steinbrenner checkbook.
The biggest mistake they made was building LoanDepot Park where it is. Their fan base is in North Miami. If LoanDepot Park was built near where the Dolphins play, the attendance would be better imho.
Marlins aren’t going anywhere. They have a new stadium, its a strong sports city. Just need to win baby, thats all.
MLB simply doesn't care about how poorly some of their franchises are run because currently everyone is making money. If you can suck on the field, have almost nobody pay to come see your games and yet still make hundreds of millions of dollars, why would you even pretend to care. Billionaires are gonna do what they do best, screw people over to get more money.
Derek Jeter. That's the comment
Same with the Rays, nothing is settled with new owners….I'll believe it when I see it.
Marlins need new ownership. More importantly, they need to win. Miami is a pretty fair weather sports town so if you aren't winning, nobody is watching.
The Marlins have been used as a money making scheme since 1993. When you have had several fire sales over the last 30 years it doesnt endear you to local fans. I cant blame the fans anymore
From a far, the Marlins just keep going through the cycle of… developing players > team gets good > sells most players for prospects. Starts the process all over again. This seems like this has happened since their inception in 1993. This current Marlins team, for like 2 months in the middle of last season, they were good. They swept the Yankees around the trade deadline. If they keep this core & stuck with them (if ownership allows it), this is an up & coming team.
Brodie I know this is a baseball video but NBA Europe, but since the news has just come out, Manchester United are considering being the NBA Europe franchise. Whilst it's common for football teams to have basketball teams in Europe, it isn't in England, and I think it could harm the sport's growth in the UK for one specific reason. I'm from London. I'd happily support a London team if it had generic branding, or the London Lions, or was an Arsenal team. But I'm never going to support a Tottenham basketball team, or a Chelsea team, etc. It's the sort of thing which would immediately turn me away from them being my local team if they're associated with my football club's rivals.
What is weird is that the Marlins AAA team here in Jacksonville won the AAA Minor League Championship… And they do decently in the stands…. The owner of the Jumbo Shrimp will be in the management of the Rays as a minority owner so will be not as involved..
Nhl teams work better in Florida than Mlb teams, Sounds crazy but i dont have any hope for Mlb in Florida !!!
Orlando still has a stadium plan just saying
You always need a floor… Simple fix make a floor to be able to get any of the luxury tax money
It’s a shame that we are 13 almost 14 years into LoanDepot Park and the Marlins have not yet played a single postseason home game.
I gave up on the Marlins after they got rid of Mike Stanton. I love the new stadium but it is way too far from West Palm Beach. It is a 3-3.5 hr round trip on a weeknight, whereas Dolphin stadium was less than 2 hrs round trip. I really think there biggest mistake was moving away from Palm Beach and Broward County. They alienated a lot of their fanbase. Also forcing fans to buy Bally's Sports to watch games is a killer. I watch the Blue Jays every night on MLB tv now for the past 4 years.
I have a great idea. Move the Marlins to Orlando. Gut the inside of the Loan Depot Park and reconfigure it to be a 50,000 seat football stadium for the Miami Hurricanes. Remember, the Miami Hurricanes football team were at their greatness at the Orange Bowl, which the present site for the Marlins' Loan Depot Park.
As a Marlins fan, I think if management put a good product on the field then I believe they could draw 18,000-20,000 a game at least
Miami is an event town though I think
I’ve been there many times and the stadium is in a bad location also
As a Dodger fan who’s lived in Miami for 20+ years, I can tell you the fans here really do love the Marlins. They packed the stadium back when we were at Joe Robbie, and they welcomed players with open arms. The only real issue has always been the ownership. They trade away as much as possible just to get a “better deal.”
Everyone…including myself, loves the teal and black uniforms, but for some reason Jeter, a non-Miami local or native, decided to double down on the Miami Vice theme. All that tradition built up over the years was tossed aside for a gimmick.
I think you’re right, Brodie,maybe they’re just content with being mid at best.
Loved the snap edit. Impressive! 🙂
cheap owner after cheap owner. after investing millions in 97 their owner made a fire sale in 98. same thing after 03… it's become a thing, a part of their identity.
Baseball needs to introduce promotion and relegation if it wants to get owners to invest in their teams. They’ll start spending if there’s a threat of their team spending a season or two playing AAA ball.
Marlins ownership thinking that if the Rays can make the World Series with a cheap payroll, why can’t we?
Ideally, someone like Mark Cuban buying the Marlins would be great. He got outfoxed by the Mavs in Dallas and he has the capital and the attitude to succeed that the Marlins desperately need. Pipe dream it may be, but that would be one solution to their situation.
Jeffrey Loria likely tainted the Marlins brand forever with his stunts. "We're broke! We're losing money! We can't keep players! Build us a stadium! Thank you, Miami. You just made me a billionaire now that I sold the team." Loria's actions are the things that people tend not to forget.
The Marlins did have a draw .. Jose Fernandez. Tragically when he died, the fanbase died along with him. If there is a saving grace for this team, getting another Fernandez will be what they need. Location is not the issue with the stadium.. it is the make up of the team. Rack up a team that culturally lines up with the community, the game changes.
the first thing the “miami” marlins did was get rid of the champion and beloved FLORIDA marlins. then they tore down the beloved orange bowl. then they came up with the ugliest logo in baseball. then they have sucked for years. if they rebrand as the florida marlins and get the same owners as the panthers, they might win miami’s heart back. miami loves baseball.
They need to bring talent in a cap floor in mlb would really help
Hi Brodie!
The Marlins are a fine example of why MLB must have a hard and enforceable spending floor. A salary cap will be meaningless without a corresponding hard salary floor.
I agree with the caller. My mom lives in Florida I've been down there several times and we have went to games and every time that big old stadium is mostly empty
Marlins are the husband to a rich woman, "Roll in my sweet baby's arms".
I don’t think the Marlins are leaving Miami anytime soon unless they don’t do any upgrades to their stadium when the stadium get to be 20 or 30 years old
This team is so badly run, just think about this. They are in a State with low taxes and nice weather. The Marlins should be a Free Agents dream to come and play for them. Just like the NHL players like to go with the Lighting and the Panthers.
Like their expansion cousins, the Colorado Rockies don’t care about winning. It’s all about income. The Rockies will never be a winner under current ownership. The only hope is that the Walmart money comes in and buys the baseball franchise. Currently, Walmart money owns the Nuggets, the avalanche, the Broncos, and the rapids soccer team. They are willing to spend and make teams competitive. We pray for the day Dick Montford Sells the Rockies. He is a terrible owner.
The Marlins and the Florida Panthers were mirror franchises, before the Panthers started winning. Nearly identical issues and success history (except the Marlins World Series wins). But like was always the case, when the Panthers started succeeding on a consistent basis, the issues went away. The same thing would happen to the Marlins.
Brodie I believe you’re overlooking the #1 problem for the Marlins; LoanDepot stadium is in a poor location So hard to get to. It should have been built further north near the Interstate
Better yet consolidate marlins and rays and let them play in Orlando a large market with a mgt group ready to do what it takes to become winners both on the field and in attendance