{"id":1852087,"date":"2025-06-20T15:31:20","date_gmt":"2025-06-20T15:31:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.wacoca.com\/anime\/1852087\/"},"modified":"2025-06-20T15:31:20","modified_gmt":"2025-06-20T15:31:20","slug":"oh-my-james-gunn-addresses-superman-drama-batman-struggles-x-men-movie-confirmed","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.wacoca.com\/anime\/1852087\/","title":{"rendered":"OH MY!! James Gunn Addresses Superman Drama, Batman Struggles, &#038; X-Men Movie CONFIRMED!!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\"  width=\"580\" height=\"385\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/nTAdJnkoEyg\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><br \/>\n<br \/>\nOH MY!! James Gunn Addresses Superman Drama, Batman Struggles, &#038; X-Men Movie CONFIRMED!!<br \/>\n<br \/>\nwell hello there Reject Nation this is going to be\u00a0<br \/>\na thick one today thick one we&#8217;re going to have to be efficient concentrate connect it&#8217;s going to be\u00a0<br \/>\nvibrant uh we got a lot to go through so here&#8217;s a little taste there&#8217;s chapters you can hop around\u00a0<br \/>\nthrough james Gman talking a lot about Superman uh\u00a0\u00a0 he&#8217;s getting very candid about you know some of\u00a0<br \/>\nthe controversy some of the Batman difficulties there&#8217;s so many quotes we got to go through this\u00a0<br \/>\nis slowly becoming the second DC Studios podcast superman box office projections currently uh F1\u00a0<br \/>\n28 years later a lot of you guys have been asking about that what we do is we put out a Patreon post\u00a0<br \/>\nand community post so you guys really guide this uh some saw rights fantastic for Tom Cruz chapters\u00a0<br \/>\nif you guys want to hop around and John got us to count this is episode 21 that we are filming\u00a0<br \/>\nand we have said that the average podcast does not make it past 22 episodes so for episode 22\u00a0<br \/>\nnext week normally we upload upload these 8 am Fridays yep next week&#8217;s going to be Friday 12 PM\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause I&#8217;m gonna um answer a question here from Rick Alt05 i&#8217;m curious as if to see this Real\u00a0<br \/>\nRejects podcast is essentially replacing the weekly live streams you used to do because it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\npretty much the same premise only difference is\u00a0\u00a0 you could talk directly to us in the live streams\u00a0<br \/>\nactually there&#8217;s a variable of differences that we can go through well the first thing I want\u00a0<br \/>\nto say is that for episode 22 we&#8217;re going to do\u00a0\u00a0 a live stream this is going to be live multicam\u00a0<br \/>\nlive we&#8217;re going to be at a new studio hopefully it all goes according to plan our live streams\u00a0<br \/>\ntend to not they tend to be chaotic i saw some back and forth there in the comments we get two\u00a0<br \/>\nvery different feelings when doing a live doing this in a live stream we get a such a large amount\u00a0<br \/>\nof questions the structure is all over the place we are also feeling a sense like we got to rush\u00a0<br \/>\nthrough everything that we are talking about\u00a0\u00a0 because like there&#8217;s another question that come\u00a0<br \/>\nanother question and we appreciate and love the super chats but it&#8217;s like comes about this and\u00a0<br \/>\na lot of repetition comes in and we enjoy them\u00a0\u00a0 we enjoy the chaos of it but this is allows us\u00a0<br \/>\nto do something a little bit more formal take our time dive deeper so the conversation that we\u00a0<br \/>\nhave is very different than the conversation we have during the live stream at least the three of\u00a0<br \/>\nus feel that very much so right which I think you would agree with that i think the live stream is\u00a0<br \/>\nthe opposite show uh I think this show is is very\u00a0\u00a0 methodical and emotionally driven i think that\u00a0<br \/>\nby the nature of sharing it with thousands of people becomes what is the thing what is the next\u00a0<br \/>\nthing what is the next thing and like inevitably\u00a0\u00a0 and it&#8217;s not because of rejectation but there\u00a0<br \/>\nis inevitably one or two awful people in the chat that antagonize other good people and that\u00a0<br \/>\nbecomes like a throughine oh yeah we we get f it is easy to get fixed are coming in here yeah like\u00a0<br \/>\none person can ruin it for everybody whereas this\u00a0\u00a0 is a place of tranquility yeah it&#8217;s very\u00a0<br \/>\ndifferent vibes uh we get two different feelings from it and we like the live streams\u00a0<br \/>\nand we want to do more of them now that we&#8217;re\u00a0\u00a0 going to have our own space but we thought to\u00a0<br \/>\ncelebrate the fact that we are we made it past the average made it past the average that&#8217;s what\u00a0<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re celebrating beating the average yeah we&#8217;re now an above average podcast so keep a lookout\u00a0<br \/>\nfor that thanks Rick all for um addressing that and before we go into the other news because of\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat we talked about at the beginning of last week uh Gakolav 6241 is saying I&#8217;m honestly enjoying\u00a0<br \/>\nthe mental health chats that&#8217;s really Mental health is such an important topic and normalizing\u00a0<br \/>\ndiscussion and taking care is something that needs\u00a0\u00a0 to be discussed more well I can&#8217;t wait to show you\u00a0<br \/>\nguys at Impact Collaborative podcast once we&#8217;re able to launch it we&#8217;re getting like a bunch\u00a0<br \/>\nshot right now john and I is that if that&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 your cup of tea you&#8217;re really going to enjoy it\u00a0<br \/>\nbut last week I was opening up about a secret addiction that I had formed to uh creatine which\u00a0<br \/>\napparently is very dangerous i started looking it\u00a0\u00a0 up after a lot yeah what did that make it worse\u00a0<br \/>\nor better it solidified my choice okay so I had my meeting with my therapist and uh before we\u00a0<br \/>\nfilmed last week I actually dumped it and I was like &#8220;All right I&#8217;m going to go I&#8217;m going to quit\u00a0<br \/>\ni&#8217;m going to quit.&#8221; And I was seeing like &#8220;Let&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 pay attention to my body.&#8221; The first couple days\u00a0<br \/>\nit was a little hard i I couldn&#8217;t sleep my heart rate was through the roof and uh headaches but\u00a0<br \/>\nafter that um I don&#8217;t know i kind of credit it to the fact that I&#8217;m already very healthy sure\u00a0<br \/>\nyou can go through stuff way better when your\u00a0\u00a0 body&#8217;s wanting to expun the bed yeah i sweat a lot\u00a0<br \/>\ni drink a lot of water already and uh after that I&#8217;ve I can officially say it&#8217;s been uh one week\u00a0<br \/>\nexactly that I have not touched anyratom and I was taking it like every single day for all this\u00a0<br \/>\nyear so yeah and and I was looking up a lot of I won&#8217;t go into the details of a lot of the affects\u00a0<br \/>\nthat it had but yeah when I was looking up videos like yeah I&#8217;m dealing with all this [\u00a0__\u00a0] yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nso but a week&#8217;s a good like that&#8217;s a good marker\u00a0\u00a0 you know that&#8217;s like you know a week and then a\u00a0<br \/>\nmonth and then you&#8217;re like it&#8217;s just the process now I do cocaine well yeah you said you want to\u00a0<br \/>\nreplace a vice with a vice i I feel like I&#8217;m way\u00a0\u00a0 more engaged that&#8217;s why we can do a two-hour live\u00a0<br \/>\nand one next week yeah because I need to swing my chair around for a bit every 30 minutes and then\u00a0<br \/>\nswing back around sometimes you got to go a little drive right on through allergies are going crazy\u00a0<br \/>\nthis week so snippy how are you doing today though Coy how are you feeling good i uh it is We&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nfilming on a federal holiday and I had a bunch of errands to run and they kept getting affected by\u00a0<br \/>\nfederal holidays yeah we don&#8217;t work normal or I had a meeting and then I did like pre-production\u00a0<br \/>\non another show and then I had a haircut and then\u00a0\u00a0 I need to go to the post office and like\u00a0<br \/>\neverything has been like and it&#8217;s just so funny that other people have time off and\u00a0<br \/>\nthat time off is causing my day on to be\u00a0\u00a0 like stressful i&#8217;m like good for you when\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m like standing outside the post office 100 degrees like I needed to get this out\u00a0<br \/>\num so I just kind of had a manic day of\u00a0\u00a0 uh of kind of having to pivot my whole week\u00a0<br \/>\num I have at the present seven jobs and when one thing goes wrong it affects all of them so\u00a0<br \/>\nwith just the act of missing a mailing I have\u00a0\u00a0 like to a change tomorrow and then Saturday\u00a0<br \/>\nand then I&#8217;ve got to cover a lot of stuff through the weekend so I&#8217;m excited for August\u00a0<br \/>\n12th which is my next day off congratulations that&#8217;s a long time from now you&#8217;re not wrong uh\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m going to try to take three days off in August\u00a0\u00a0 we talked about that and then uh I my grandpa&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\n80th birthday is in September i think I&#8217;m going to go surprise him i I kind of want to I&#8217;ve\u00a0<br \/>\nnever done a thing where it&#8217;s like the fanatic\u00a0\u00a0 about the podcast though now he knows I&#8217;m sorry i\u00a0<br \/>\nlearned a surprise that&#8217;s our main demographic 75 and up you know big fan uh but yeah I I haven&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve never done that cool family thing to like\u00a0\u00a0 surprise someone or I&#8217;ve never selfishly bought\u00a0<br \/>\na flight i&#8217;ve only like traveled to see family or like done something for my fiance i&#8217;ve never\u00a0<br \/>\nspent my money on me and I&#8217;ve been coming into\u00a0\u00a0 that like my mental health is like I have a lot\u00a0<br \/>\nof money trauma and a lot of trauma about like taking time off so I want to try to put those\u00a0<br \/>\ntogether and be like I want you to take a trip\u00a0\u00a0 for me and I want to surprise my grandpa because\u00a0<br \/>\nit means a lot to me oh yeah that&#8217;d be great i want to see how my brain does that yeah i want to\u00a0<br \/>\nsee how I feel to like choose me so I&#8217;m going to try to do that in September i think that&#8217;ll be\u00a0<br \/>\ngood all right coin well I&#8217;m happy to hear that\u00a0\u00a0 john John&#8217;s great john never has any problems john\u00a0<br \/>\nhad a birthday and he didn&#8217;t like do a thing and I&#8217;m so narcissistic that I&#8217;m still confused how I\u00a0<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t get an invitation unless he did something\u00a0\u00a0 and didn&#8217;t invite me in which I&#8217;m insulted\u00a0<br \/>\nno it&#8217;s it&#8217;s actually the opposite scenario i&#8217;m like I would be so racked with guilt if I\u00a0<br \/>\nforget anyone that I&#8217;m just like it&#8217;s too much\u00a0\u00a0 to to process if anybody wants to find me and\u00a0<br \/>\ncelebrate I&#8217;ll happily do so that&#8217;s probably healthier cy doesn&#8217;t do anything for him but he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nalso a narcissist the irony it&#8217;s a struggle it&#8217;s a struggle living this life must conflict isn&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nit very conflicting all right well no smooth transitions here we don&#8217;t operate that way let And\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s another thing this is more qualitative than\u00a0\u00a0 a live live streams are one shot to end yeah 100%\u00a0<br \/>\nand we&#8217;re also like parallel like I don&#8217;t see you guys like every so often be like Greg&#8217;s there like\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s not like this a natural conversation for sure\u00a0\u00a0 for sure all right let&#8217;s kick it off reviewer 04I\u00a0<br \/>\nsays the Superman box office tracking just came out a few minutes ago so this is uh your yesterday\u00a0<br \/>\nfor you guys our today it is now projected to earn $135 million during its domestic opening weekend\u00a0<br \/>\nokay batman v Superman open at 166 man of Steel open at 116 so this is at 135 in the middle\u00a0<br \/>\nthere okay pretty solid i mean if you adjust Man of Steel for inflation it&#8217;s probably a little\u00a0<br \/>\nbit higher but we&#8217;re at a different period then right i&#8217;m coping now cooping take the copium Greg\u00a0<br \/>\nme acknowledging reality is coping uh but yeah but back then it was it was different like the\u00a0<br \/>\nthe excitement of what could be and there wasn&#8217;t even a conversation about superhero fatigue at\u00a0<br \/>\nthat point it wasn&#8217;t even a possibility then yeah and now it&#8217;s such a like can we sustain comic\u00a0<br \/>\nbook industry so I think this is actually a pretty good number also pre- pandemic the movie\u00a0<br \/>\ntheater beyond even superhero movies the movie\u00a0\u00a0 theater has changed a lot of people don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\ngo to the movies in the same way and like streaming has really ruined things so I I would\u00a0<br \/>\nsay that&#8217;s a solid number i I mean I I wanted to make a billion dollars that doesn&#8217;t seem like\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s a bad number to get to that lofty goal\u00a0\u00a0 like everybody says billion it&#8217;s so casual now\u00a0<br \/>\nbut very few movies have made a billion dollars it was a point where a billion dollars was like\u00a0<br \/>\na rarity and a thing to be celebrated but then we had a bunch in a row and now it&#8217;s back to being\u00a0<br \/>\nrare but I think people remember the bunch in a\u00a0\u00a0 row like somebody&#8217;s like &#8220;Yeah that makes a\u00a0<br \/>\nbillion dollars.&#8221; But like a billion is crazy like when The Dark Knight reached a billion\u00a0<br \/>\nthat was insane it was like the talk of the\u00a0\u00a0 year uh so I think it still has the potential but\u00a0<br \/>\nI do think uh this tracks between like those two that seems fair and right yeah yeah well also\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s about the legs right yeah i think second weekend&#8217;s a bigger deal than it&#8217;s ever been for\u00a0<br \/>\nmost movies so much of the time we put emphasis\u00a0\u00a0 on the opening weekend but second weekends can\u00a0<br \/>\nbe I love those stories more yeah that like drop off&#8217;s only 30% like that&#8217;s crazy whereas like\u00a0<br \/>\nlike Captain America opened big but then Yeah thunderbolt same thing the one that emotionally\u00a0<br \/>\naffected me when I was younger the one that like\u00a0\u00a0 stood out to me in my consciousness was Elf elf\u00a0<br \/>\nlike did not open well but the word of mouth was so good that it eventually climbed to number one\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah and then it had long legs now it&#8217;s a classic\u00a0\u00a0 fight Club bombed like Fight Club never did well\u00a0<br \/>\nin theaters and then it found an audience in home video like a lot of good movies don&#8217;t do well but\u00a0<br \/>\nthis one doing well opening hopefully it also has\u00a0\u00a0 good word of mouth thousand% i feel like it&#8217;ll\u00a0<br \/>\nprobably grow uh because this this seems to have that overall America appeal and worldwide appeal\u00a0<br \/>\nlike you could see people in like different states that are smaller like Michigan or some [\u00a0__\u00a0] yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nbut they&#8217;re Michigan yeah detroit uh they&#8217;re also traveling the world with it like right now they&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nin I think Manila marketing is nuts yeah dude i&#8217;m\u00a0\u00a0 like so excited about this summer of just like the\u00a0<br \/>\nmarketing looks more expensive than the movie it looks a lot like they&#8217;re doing a lot and like\u00a0<br \/>\nDavid cut his hair he looks great so handsome\u00a0\u00a0 love the haircut buzzcut jealous looks like I was\u00a0<br \/>\nworking out the other day fun story i was working out i was doing bench press and uh I can&#8217;t bench\u00a0<br \/>\nthat heavy before anyone says any [\u00a0__\u00a0] oh my god and then uh as I was like doing like a a super\u00a0<br \/>\nsetting and then I see someone waiting for me and I&#8217;m and I&#8217;m like are you waiting and then a\u00a0<br \/>\nsecond he&#8217;s like take your time i&#8217;m like that&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 [\u00a0__\u00a0] Sebastian Stan right there he looks great\u00a0<br \/>\nwith a musket he&#8217;s got a shaved head i was like no you can take it you can take it celebrity love\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m leaving by dude&#8217;s strong there&#8217;s a rule at certain gyms though that you do not acknowledge\u00a0<br \/>\nfamous like Mr beast goes to the I will never\u00a0\u00a0 say hi to famous people at the gym never it&#8217;s a\u00a0<br \/>\nIt&#8217;s kind of a unspoken rule that you will make people uncomfortable there imagine D Peter but I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\ndifferent i&#8217;m like &#8220;Come talk to me approach me\u00a0\u00a0 please please know that I&#8217;m known.&#8221; It happened at\u00a0<br \/>\na screen we went to yesterday like &#8220;I&#8217;m so sorry to bother you did it.&#8221; I&#8217;m like &#8220;Don&#8217;t say that.&#8221;\u00a0<br \/>\nAnd I said to them like &#8220;We&#8217;re we&#8217;re semi popular it&#8217;s not real fame we don&#8217;t make money we make\u00a0<br \/>\nfame anecdotes.&#8221; And anyone who&#8217;s famous from the internet and is a douche about it no respect for\u00a0<br \/>\nthat you&#8217;re famous from the internet yeah it&#8217;s a little different so go ahead and say hi i went to\u00a0<br \/>\na party and uh a bunch of people at the party like\u00a0\u00a0 the the you know when you go to a party and you&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nlike the elders and there&#8217;s like 20somes and now you&#8217;re like I can feel the difference the 10 years\u00a0<br \/>\nreally is different now a bunch of the youths were\u00a0\u00a0 big uh Reax fans and it was really cool to like\u00a0<br \/>\nhave them be like oh my god don&#8217;t you do real rejects and be like this feels like when I be at a\u00a0<br \/>\nparty and there be like an actor like when I came\u00a0\u00a0 to Hollywood so it was really special oh that&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nnice we got to stay on track today yeah focused um hey what do you guys think about this box office\u00a0<br \/>\ndoes it sound like an epic failure can you spin it\u00a0\u00a0 that way yeah of course you can cuz I didn&#8217;t make\u00a0<br \/>\n200 million opening so it&#8217;s nothing nothing it&#8217;s his weak sauce james Gun&#8217;s weakening everything\u00a0<br \/>\nspeaking of James Gun and controversy he&#8217;s getting kind of candid about some [\u00a0__\u00a0] here uh have\u00a0<br \/>\nyou seen any of the Rolling Stone article yeah\u00a0\u00a0 I got some specific quotes well there&#8217;s there&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\none quote here um let&#8217;s talk about this section because it of course created an unnecessary drama\u00a0<br \/>\non the interphere and I&#8217;m I&#8217;m cooler talking about it now i know we&#8217;ve tied our back and forth\u00a0<br \/>\nabout whether or not how much of this we should\u00a0\u00a0 acknowledge i&#8217;m cooler talking about it because\u00a0<br \/>\nJames Gun clearly pays attention to all of it too so I&#8217;m like well if he&#8217;s going to pay attention\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m going to pay attention a little bit more too\u00a0\u00a0 i wonder if he watches our show maybe that&#8217;d be\u00a0<br \/>\nnice maybe he watches your DC Studio show that would be nice i know he watches that show yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nhe should he has to uh well okay so there&#8217;s a few things here superman vulnerability the visual\u00a0<br \/>\neffects shot uh he said some things about Marvel and then some things about Batman we&#8217;re gonna\u00a0<br \/>\nhave to go through a lot of this stuff okay so the\u00a0\u00a0 Superman vulnerability let&#8217;s go through this one\u00a0<br \/>\nfirst there&#8217;s kind of a lot to read here there are things that I know I don&#8217;t explain that I don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\neven want to say out loud but I wanted Superman to be vulnerable i see the online things who would\u00a0<br \/>\nbeat whom homeland or Superman or [\u00a0__\u00a0] whatever Adam Warlock or Breitbird and I&#8217;m like this is the\u00a0<br \/>\n[\u00a0__\u00a0] stupidest conversation like so then whoever would win this fight means that they&#8217;re the best\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause I&#8217;ll just go out and write Godman who can\u00a0\u00a0 destroy you with a wink and I win i win all the\u00a0<br \/>\nfights forever but I didn&#8217;t want a Superman who could punch planets and also we&#8217;re creating a\u00a0<br \/>\nwhole universe now so what&#8217;s a girl with wings going to do in the face of that so he&#8217;s a little\u00a0<br \/>\nless powerful green Lantern or Guy Gardner is\u00a0\u00a0 pretty effing powerful they&#8217;re all pretty powerful\u00a0<br \/>\nhonestly in talking to people a lot of people are like &#8220;I like Batman better because he can actually\u00a0<br \/>\nbe beat.&#8221; And I get that so we have a Superman that can be beat so in other news he&#8217;s making\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman a [\u00a0__\u00a0] did you hear this fallable that&#8217;s what he is he&#8217;s a [\u00a0__\u00a0] i don&#8217;t want to\u00a0<br \/>\nrelate to my characters super [\u00a0__\u00a0] i want to\u00a0\u00a0 look up to them and admire them from afar is not\u00a0<br \/>\nUltra Man a character uh okay so Superman has had many iterations superman has been around for 80\u00a0<br \/>\nyears plus superman is a character that I mean\u00a0\u00a0 nearly 100 superman is a is a very longunning\u00a0<br \/>\ncharacter and depending on who&#8217;s writing him beyond just which decade you&#8217;re reading from\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s going to have different level of power depending on the arc even within a writer&#8217;s long\u00a0<br \/>\nif they&#8217;ve got a run on Superman i think the ones I personally connect to most are the ones where\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s a character that I can identify with in any\u00a0\u00a0 way because then you go wow this this character\u00a0<br \/>\nthat is stronger than us which he inherently is that is larger than life is still relatable and I\u00a0<br \/>\ncan connect to them wanting to be good if someone\u00a0\u00a0 is so removed from you and they do something good\u00a0<br \/>\nor wholesome or for the betterment but you don&#8217;t identify with them it doesn&#8217;t really affect you it\u00a0<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t really matter um when when people that are\u00a0\u00a0 are very different than me make a choice I don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\ngo like &#8220;What would I do?&#8221; Cuz I don&#8217;t relate to them at all so when you&#8217;ve got a character called\u00a0<br \/>\nUltra Man and you&#8217;ve got a character called\u00a0\u00a0 Superman they&#8217;re not characters called Invincible\u00a0<br \/>\ncuz spoiler alert we got that guy so I think it&#8217;s important to have there be a plausible deniability\u00a0<br \/>\nwhile still being true to the character and that&#8217;s the line in the sand is whether or not it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\ntrue to the character if they make Clark Kent\u00a0\u00a0 um you know fragile and make Superman even more\u00a0<br \/>\nfragile that&#8217;s not Superman but that&#8217;s not what he&#8217;s saying so I I think this is more how I see\u00a0<br \/>\nthe character i have not seen the film as of now uh and I think that it is a very tricky thing for\u00a0<br \/>\nJames because both Man of Steel and his Superman are going to have people that argue this is\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman and guess what that&#8217;s how opinions work because they&#8217;re both right that&#8217;s the character\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah i mean this is a conversation that we&#8217;ve\u00a0\u00a0 been having for a while that that&#8217;s why we like\u00a0<br \/>\nthe two opening shots that he&#8217;s done where which did create a controversy of Superman looking\u00a0<br \/>\nlike he&#8217;s been beat and hurt that makes you connect you watch a guy rise from circumstances\u00a0<br \/>\nthat are beating him down that&#8217;s the only way you really feel inspired is overcoming challenges and\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat I love too is the consideration of how he&#8217;s speaking to the bigger part of the universe you\u00a0<br \/>\nyou think about Justice League and a lot of time you&#8217;re like well they have Superman superman\u00a0<br \/>\ncould take care of most of this we don&#8217;t do we\u00a0\u00a0 really He&#8217;s as fast as Flash he&#8217;s as strong as\u00a0<br \/>\nAquaman super stronger than Aquaman and Wonder Woman do we really need that even even in Zack\u00a0<br \/>\nSnider&#8217;s Justice League which I adore what happens when when they&#8217;re fighting Stephen Wolf suddenly\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman shows up and he&#8217;s there to just taking\u00a0\u00a0 care of him there&#8217;s a reason they had to kill him\u00a0<br \/>\nand take him away for a long time because that&#8217;s the character because that leaves them feeling\u00a0<br \/>\nmore vulnerable to Stephenwolf in that movie that but when Superman&#8217;s around it&#8217;s not as vulnerable\u00a0<br \/>\nof a situation because that is the Superman who\u00a0\u00a0 could punch a planet and everything so they had\u00a0<br \/>\nto invent kryptonite like you know what I mean like kryptonite wasn&#8217;t in the origin of Superman\u00a0<br \/>\nit came later oh I didn&#8217;t know that really yeah it\u00a0\u00a0 was part of the radio show kryptonite was invented\u00a0<br \/>\nto give their context to having some adversity in the radio show so like that&#8217;s a newer not new but\u00a0<br \/>\nlike newer thing than Superman is because you need to have adversity i like the idea of vulnerability\u00a0<br \/>\nof it being kryptonite because that&#8217;s the thing that brings them closer to home and a lot of\u00a0<br \/>\nthe times people with like trauma or weaknesses it&#8217;s the things that make you a little bit more\u00a0<br \/>\ncloser to family like sometimes people when they\u00a0\u00a0 experience like a family trauma they disassociate\u00a0<br \/>\nfrom all family because it&#8217;s a reminder so there&#8217;s kind of like this cool metaphor it was when I\u00a0<br \/>\nwas reading Birthright i sort I started picking\u00a0\u00a0 up on on that read Superman Birthright holy crap\u00a0<br \/>\namazing that&#8217;s easily my favorite Superman comic I&#8217;ve read so far i got to read what&#8217;s the next one\u00a0<br \/>\na Superman for all seasons i can&#8217;t ever remember\u00a0\u00a0 that title for all seasons for all seasons yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nI want I&#8217;m going to read that next i&#8217;m going to try to power through it because I&#8217;ve been\u00a0<br \/>\ninvited on a very special podcast that I can&#8217;t\u00a0\u00a0 announce yet but yeah I&#8217;m going to try to read it\u00a0<br \/>\nbeforehand so yeah that uh I He also couldn&#8217;t fly in the beginning oh wow superman could leap tall\u00a0<br \/>\nbuildings in a sing bound he couldn&#8217;t fly yet so\u00a0\u00a0 these are things that people are like that&#8217;s not\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman he evolves no no i think having a little bit of cuz he still looks insanely powerful in\u00a0<br \/>\nthe trailers he&#8217;s he&#8217;s incredibly powerful but you need you need a way to root for him as opposed\u00a0<br \/>\nyou won&#8217;t feel stakes if he&#8217;s not vulnerable at\u00a0\u00a0 all and if it&#8217;s only he needs kryptonite then he\u00a0<br \/>\nbecomes like repetitive and I&#8217;ve always loved that Superman&#8217;s to me biggest weakness is that he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\ntrying to be everywhere at once and that still\u00a0\u00a0 sounds like this is part of it like when Superman\u00a0<br \/>\nis knowing he&#8217;s trying to be all these things I think James is going to bring that to it yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nokay and then the next thing he&#8217;s talking about\u00a0\u00a0 the visual effects shot the one that when we\u00a0<br \/>\nlaunched this podcast when there was a bunch of uh people shooting and wide yep people getting\u00a0<br \/>\nmad so um I don&#8217;t exactly know what the exact question was here but I got the quote no I didn&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nthink it was so much it was a TV commercial and it wasn&#8217;t a finished visual effects shot so the part\u00a0<br \/>\nof him flying it was a photograph of his face and him flying it was a photograph of a drone flying\u00a0<br \/>\nin front of an actual background so all the pieces were real but it was incorporated in kind of a\u00a0<br \/>\nfunky way i didn&#8217;t love the shot so it&#8217;s not even the shot that&#8217;s in the movie sometimes I&#8217;m pretty\u00a0<br \/>\nstrict about when I&#8217;m going through a trailer and\u00a0\u00a0 looking at each of the shots and sometimes the\u00a0<br \/>\ncommercials I forget to look at this closely so that one kind of got by me coy I&#8217;ll ask your\u00a0<br \/>\nthoughts i have thoughts but what are your thoughts uh I&#8217;m of two minds uh one you know it is\u00a0<br \/>\ntricky to put out as much marketing as bowing down to the haters right now that&#8217;s That was my first\u00a0<br \/>\nThat was my second i was going to go no but like\u00a0\u00a0 when you&#8217;re doing as much marketing as this film\u00a0<br \/>\nhas to uh it is tricky when that&#8217;s like your first look and that is a hard position to be in of like\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m making this movie i&#8217;m overseeing this universe i&#8217;m writing this thing i&#8217;m working on Peacemaker\u00a0<br \/>\nbut that&#8217;s the job right now like he&#8217;s overseeing\u00a0\u00a0 a universe while working on a bunch of projects\u00a0<br \/>\nhimself and we were talking about how that&#8217;s like a very daunting volume of like Kevin Feige doesn&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\ndirect kevin Feige doesn&#8217;t write like he&#8217;s he&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 just the producer and that&#8217;s already too much uh\u00a0<br \/>\nso you know this does sound like something that slipped and I&#8217;m sure that affects him like I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\nsure he&#8217;s not thrilled that a commercial came\u00a0\u00a0 out he&#8217;s like &#8220;Oh that&#8217;s our first look.&#8221; But at\u00a0<br \/>\nthe same time I I&#8217;m very that my other thought is to me it was so clearly a wide angle lens that\u00a0<br \/>\nwhen I think of like anything in movies like when you&#8217;ve got an anthropomorphic or anything that\u00a0<br \/>\nlike alters a visual it clearly like David isn&#8217;t crosseyed so like to me I was just like well yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nthey&#8217;re not done yet so like I wasn&#8217;t affected by\u00a0\u00a0 it and that&#8217;s I remember us talking about it i was\u00a0<br \/>\nlike oh yeah not done and so this kind of tracks with what I thought happened it&#8217;s just great to\u00a0<br \/>\nhave it confirmed like I think it&#8217;s smart to say\u00a0\u00a0 so there&#8217;s probably part of him was like I don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nwant to say I didn&#8217;t see the shot but the other part is like it wasn&#8217;t done so I get it yeah cuz\u00a0<br \/>\nI I remember when we were talking about it that I was playing more of the opposite angle of of that\u00a0<br \/>\nopinion of like well if you&#8217;re going to put out\u00a0\u00a0 this first look I mean it&#8217;s really important you\u00a0<br \/>\nnail this [\u00a0__\u00a0] down and and if I can understand why people were kind of were not being forgiving\u00a0<br \/>\nor giving those kind of caveats that you were just talking about what I appreciate about this is he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nacknowledging the oversight that he had so much of the time now directors kind of this seems to be\u00a0<br \/>\nlike a war with like f the audience f sometime and sometimes things get interpreted that way\u00a0<br \/>\ntoo like f the fans and that they don&#8217;t really\u00a0\u00a0 care to acknowledge and this is the problem with\u00a0<br \/>\nwoke Hollywood that they don&#8217;t listen to to things what do the people want we&#8217;re the ticket buyers\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah yeah exactly and with this this to me is him you know if if you&#8217;re a leader in a position like\u00a0<br \/>\nthis and you can acknowledge I don&#8217;t want to call it like a mistake but definitely an oversight\u00a0<br \/>\nthat is super that stands out to me as as an integral part of someone leading a company you\u00a0<br \/>\ngot to be able to acknowledge like yeah I kind of\u00a0\u00a0 dropped the ball there so let me I&#8217;ll do better\u00a0<br \/>\nnext time if someone&#8217;s able to say that and say it publicly too but also in a way that doesn&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nfeel like you know the the weight of the world is weighing him down just because of this one\u00a0<br \/>\nthing that went wrong i&#8217;ve been thinking about\u00a0\u00a0 that for 15 months yeah yeah uh I I I think that\u00a0<br \/>\nis a good sign of of of leadership uh honestly cuz Yeah i didn&#8217;t think the shot I was at the camp\u00a0<br \/>\nlike the shot does look a little funky um even\u00a0\u00a0 though I agree with what you were saying that I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\nlike &#8220;Yeah I see that but it did look funky.&#8221; The fact that he&#8217;s able to acknowledge that maybe that\u00a0<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t the right call i still agree it shouldn&#8217;t\u00a0\u00a0 have been the first shot but I like knowing why\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah yeah it&#8217;s confirmed it&#8217;s weird it&#8217;s a shot shot shot so popular it&#8217;s not even going to be\u00a0<br \/>\nin the movie yeah i mean that&#8217;s pro if that&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 not the vision i like when a director can not\u00a0<br \/>\nlike keep it for the sake of its imagery like it&#8217;s good that it&#8217;s like I didn&#8217;t like it we don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nhave it yeah yeah yeah that&#8217;s true actually we saw\u00a0\u00a0 28 years later and I noticed that too there was\u00a0<br \/>\na really famous shot in the first trailer that is not in the movie actually yeah i loved that movie\u00a0<br \/>\nbut I I definitely like by when it end I was like\u00a0\u00a0 wait a second there was a there was a beat what\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah yeah there was Yeah yeah we won&#8217;t say what it is but okay that&#8217;s a fun one that&#8217;s a fun one\u00a0<br \/>\nthanks James Gun for that do you think Superman&#8217;s a [\u00a0__\u00a0] leave your thoughts in the comments let\u00a0<br \/>\nus know if you think Superman&#8217;s a little pansy\u00a0\u00a0 where&#8217;s his underwear on the outside stalling\u00a0<br \/>\nfor time as this page is loaded here we go hil 10 uh he said &#8220;Gun&#8217;s recent comments about Marvel\u00a0<br \/>\nand his ideal version of Batman hope you guys are doing well.&#8221; Thank you so which one you want to\u00a0<br \/>\ndo first marvel quotes or Batman you call you call uh uh let&#8217;s do Batman let&#8217;s stay Let&#8217;s say\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman batman okay so there&#8217;s two sections to\u00a0\u00a0 the Batman side here dcu Batman Matt Reeves Batman\u00a0<br \/>\nlet&#8217;s break it down batman&#8217;s my biggest issue in all of DC right now personally and it&#8217;s not I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\nnot writing Batman but I am currently working\u00a0\u00a0 with the writer of Batman and trying to get it\u00a0<br \/>\nright because he&#8217;s incredibly important to DC as is Wonder Woman batman has to have a reason\u00a0<br \/>\nfor existing right so Batman can&#8217;t just be oh we&#8217;re making a Batman movie because Batman&#8217;s the\u00a0<br \/>\nbiggest character in all of Warner Brothers which\u00a0\u00a0 he is but because there&#8217;s a need for him in the\u00a0<br \/>\nDCU and a need that he&#8217;s not exactly the same as Matt Reeves as Batman yet he&#8217;s not a campy Batman\u00a0<br \/>\ni&#8217;m not interested in that i&#8217;m not interested in a funny campy Batman really i think I have a way in\u00a0<br \/>\nby the way i think I really know what it&#8217;s I just am dealing with the writer to make sure that we\u00a0<br \/>\ncan make it a reality what are your thoughts Coy this is what I&#8217;ve been saying for a year um it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nnot going to be Matt Reeves Batman it&#8217;s going to be Matt Reeves universe with the Penguin and all\u00a0<br \/>\nthat world building and then a Batman where it\u00a0\u00a0 makes sense that he could coexist with crypto\u00a0<br \/>\ni don&#8217;t want to undermine all of the world building in the Penguin and the Batman by having\u00a0<br \/>\nthings that are so larger than life that&#8217;s the\u00a0\u00a0 cool thing about the characters you can pick up\u00a0<br \/>\nDetective Comics and have a tone you can pick up Batman have a tone you can pick up Batman Dark\u00a0<br \/>\nPatterns and have a tone you can pick up Batman\u00a0\u00a0 Superman World&#8217;s Fest and have a tone and these\u00a0<br \/>\nare just four of the eight books that are Batman right now he is the most popular character so\u00a0<br \/>\nyou can do versions of him but I think at the\u00a0\u00a0 same time making like a Neil Adams gray and blue\u00a0<br \/>\nsuit and make it a member of the Justice League and make him um someone that could bend reality\u00a0<br \/>\na bit by having him around these larger than life characters doesn&#8217;t inherently make him like Batman\u00a0<br \/>\n66 i think a lot of people think it&#8217;s either like Nolan and Patson and that tone or B sharkin like\u00a0<br \/>\nthere&#8217;s lot between so I would love if it&#8217;s closer to you know our our reality without being farce\u00a0<br \/>\nlike I don&#8217;t want to see a spoof of Batman but I don&#8217;t think it should be the same exact David\u00a0<br \/>\nFinchery Matt Reeves tone i think it should find a\u00a0\u00a0 way to be something that is plausible deniability\u00a0<br \/>\nof the world&#8217;s greatest detective that is so smart and so focused on this this vengeance that is so\u00a0<br \/>\nfocused on being the perfect human specimen he can keep up with these metahumans and I don&#8217;t think\u00a0<br \/>\nI would buy Robert Patson&#8217;s detective take which is my favorite one of the my favorite superhero\u00a0<br \/>\nmovies of all time i wouldn&#8217;t necessarily buy\u00a0\u00a0 him in a world where you know Hawk Girl flies by\u00a0<br \/>\nso um I think this is the best answer and I think that him acknowledging it&#8217;s not going to be full\u00a0<br \/>\ncamp is great and a relief i never thought it was\u00a0\u00a0 going to be but I don&#8217;t think we should put those\u00a0<br \/>\ntwo worlds together personally and I think his way in is going to be making sure there&#8217;s a big enough\u00a0<br \/>\ndifference to rationalize two Batman&#8217;s but without\u00a0\u00a0 sacrificing the vision of the DCU and I love that\u00a0<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s not coming from a place of okay he&#8217;s popular we need to make this it&#8217;s coming from a place of\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat in universe what in story that I&#8217;m telling in this giant tapestry of characters makes this\u00a0<br \/>\ncharacter the most important right now and and you\u00a0\u00a0 need the Holy Trinity you need Batman Superman and\u00a0<br \/>\nWonder Woman you need them to come from a place of the story not from your wallet i hear what you&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nsaying but No but he wants to make that money come on man no I like I like what he&#8217;s saying um it it\u00a0<br \/>\ndoes pose an interesting thought process though and as you were talking it&#8217;s a thought that I\u00a0<br \/>\nactually didn&#8217;t dawn on me until right now how if you have two running Batman uh one in the DCU\u00a0<br \/>\nand the Matt Reeves one and then in my mind I&#8217;m thinking the DCU Batman should be a little bit\u00a0<br \/>\nmore akin to like the Batman the Animated Series\u00a0\u00a0 Batman or the Arkham Games Batman one that&#8217;s a\u00a0<br \/>\nlittle bit more heightened more martial artsy like just basically Robert Patterson but heightened\u00a0<br \/>\nmore you know it seems like it would be a really\u00a0\u00a0 easy thing to go well this is definitely the very\u00a0<br \/>\nreal world now let&#8217;s do the fantastical world but we can&#8217;t go campy so I imagine it&#8217;s a very hard\u00a0<br \/>\nline that they have to find because whoever they put then as Batman for the DCU automatically lends\u00a0<br \/>\nitself to a comparison to the other running Batman at that time it could very much well be like if\u00a0<br \/>\nyou have a Batman that is like an Arkham Knight one there could be audiences that are going &#8220;Well\u00a0<br \/>\nthis Batman can clearly kick Robert Patterson&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 ass i&#8217;m not as interested in the Robert Patterson\u00a0<br \/>\none.&#8221; Or it could be the flip where you do go more fantastical or whatever and then you have a Batman\u00a0<br \/>\nwho&#8217;s really um you have a Batman who&#8217;s like you know cool technically cooler but maybe not as\u00a0<br \/>\nappealing to audiences people don&#8217;t enjoy the\u00a0\u00a0 performance as much and they&#8217;re like &#8220;Why&#8217; they\u00a0<br \/>\ndo this we have Robert Patterson&#8217;s right here they should have just used Robert Patterson so\u00a0<br \/>\nthe struggle I feel is what he&#8217;s talking about of trying to crack the right code of the middle\u00a0<br \/>\nground this could take a very very long time like I don&#8217;t even know what the solution like\u00a0<br \/>\nwe have ideas of what they could do i&#8217;m going\u00a0\u00a0 yeah more of like the Arkham video game side that\u00a0<br \/>\nwould probably be your easiest bet but then will that diminish the reception though of the other\u00a0<br \/>\nrunning Batman elsewhere like for us it wouldn&#8217;t for audiences would it and I&#8217;m going to segue us\u00a0<br \/>\ninto like what he talked about here when he was asked about the Matt Reeves part he said it would\u00a0<br \/>\nbe a consideration we&#8217;d have to think about it we have to think about it it is not like we&#8217;ve never\u00a0<br \/>\ndiscussed it i would never say zero but you just\u00a0\u00a0 never know but it&#8217;s not likely it&#8217;s not likely at\u00a0<br \/>\nall and it&#8217;s not canceled we don&#8217;t have a script matt&#8217;s slow let him take his time let him do what\u00a0<br \/>\nmatt&#8217;s slow it&#8217;s such a It&#8217;s just what a flipping like I&#8217;m just going to say it it&#8217;s like is that\u00a0<br \/>\na passive aggressive way of of being like hurry\u00a0\u00a0 your [\u00a0__\u00a0] up as his boss i&#8217;m going to put this\u00a0<br \/>\nin writing yeah damn people are blaming me for what this is now let me take his time let him\u00a0<br \/>\ndo what he&#8217;s doing god people are mean let him do his thing man i don&#8217;t know what it actually\u00a0<br \/>\nsounded like when he said it just reading it sounds really funny god people are mean let him\u00a0<br \/>\ndo his job he just sounds exhausted can you be\u00a0\u00a0 answering the same question for like months\u00a0<br \/>\nand people are jerks about it and and they keep saying you know people already blame him for\u00a0<br \/>\nso much of this stuff like the Snider world not\u00a0\u00a0 happening and all that blah blah blah and then\u00a0<br \/>\nnow they&#8217;re I think they&#8217;re passing judgment on to why the Batman Matt Reeves&#8217; Batman universe is\u00a0<br \/>\ntaking so long to develop but it seems like when I read stuff like that it it seemed like there was\u00a0<br \/>\na point where there was never a consideration it\u00a0\u00a0 and it seemed more of a flip never say never but\u00a0<br \/>\nbut now it seems as if the vibe I&#8217;m getting is that there&#8217;s a bit of a consideration because it\u00a0<br \/>\ncould it would make things easier ultimately for all all the conflict you just said is real like\u00a0<br \/>\nall the all the levels to play i just I think\u00a0\u00a0 it would sacrifice both a little unfortunately\u00a0<br \/>\nright like it makes the meshing of the universes work better it makes it easier to follow for\u00a0<br \/>\naudiences but then you got the MCU problem where you&#8217;re you&#8217;re making everything work you&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\ncramming it all together where like elseorlds is\u00a0\u00a0 a strength of DC comics and if they&#8217;re building\u00a0<br \/>\nout an elseworld if they&#8217;re calling if they&#8217;re developing the idea of elseorlds let a strong one\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s already started go being an Elseorld cuz as soon as you&#8217;re like &#8220;Oh it&#8217;s got to fold into\u00a0<br \/>\nhere,&#8221; then all of a sudden every movie you make\u00a0\u00a0 should and that&#8217;s Marvel&#8217;s problem how do you feel\u00a0<br \/>\nabout that last that last comment&#8217;s like kind of tripping me out he&#8217;s he really seems like he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\ngetting defensive here i I just think that like\u00a0\u00a0 you know he&#8217;s a very candid dude and I think that\u00a0<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s just so sick i mean I&#8217;m sick of hearing this question answered i can&#8217;t imagine being so sick\u00a0<br \/>\nof answering it like every time we talk about\u00a0\u00a0 Matt Reeves Batman everybody&#8217;s like &#8220;It&#8217;s going to\u00a0<br \/>\nhappen.&#8221; And like that&#8217;d be This is his job he has to answer that question every day there&#8217;s probably\u00a0<br \/>\npeople in DC Studios like &#8220;Why don&#8217;t we just do\u00a0\u00a0 it?&#8221; Yeah like I don&#8217;t know that but I assume that\u00a0<br \/>\nif everyone saying it it&#8217;s be frustrating he&#8217;s and part of what he&#8217;s been doing as a the thing is\u00a0<br \/>\nhe has a plan as a leader for this company but you know a lot of times when things are growing\u00a0<br \/>\nand shifting it&#8217;s like that&#8217;s why the studio is\u00a0\u00a0 such a good show because I could see him running\u00a0<br \/>\ninto situations like that where oh [\u00a0__\u00a0] you know I put out some messages but the reality is I\u00a0<br \/>\nhave to make a couple of sacrifices going against\u00a0\u00a0 what I originally said I we would do he&#8217;s also a\u00a0<br \/>\ncreative that&#8217;s used to like he write directs and does his own thing so now he&#8217;s like overseeing and\u00a0<br \/>\nlike that&#8217;s a lot of pressure yeah he puts out a\u00a0\u00a0 lot of ideas um but ideas aren&#8217;t cemented things\u00a0<br \/>\nthat they&#8217;re going to be doing and as a creative you kind of bob and weave throughout the entire\u00a0<br \/>\nprocess so it&#8217;s cuz it&#8217;s a it&#8217;s a weird position to go into it&#8217;s really I don&#8217;t envy it i do not\u00a0<br \/>\nenvy it um to the Marvel points of what he was talking about over at Marvel they&#8217;ve been pretty\u00a0<br \/>\nopen about the fact that they realize what&#8217;s going\u00a0\u00a0 wrong over the past few years they put out too\u00a0<br \/>\nmuch stuff and uh longtime Marvel exec producer Luis de Espazito said that privately to me i\u00a0<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t even know if it&#8217;s really their fault they were under a corporate mandate that wasn&#8217;t fair it\u00a0<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t right and it killed them we don&#8217;t have that mandate at DC to have a certain amount of movies\u00a0<br \/>\nand TV shows every year not yet James so we&#8217;re going to put every out everything that we think\u00a0<br \/>\nis of the highest quality we&#8217;re obviously going\u00a0\u00a0 to do some good things and some not good things\u00a0<br \/>\nintentionally we want to do bad projects but hopefully on average everything will be as high\u00a0<br \/>\nquality as possible nothing goes before there&#8217;s a screenplay that I am happy with and then of\u00a0<br \/>\ncourse complaints complaints complaints cuz James\u00a0\u00a0 Gun moved his lips up and down to be clear and as\u00a0<br \/>\nis clear in the context of this interview I didn&#8217;t say it killed them like they&#8217;re over but they were\u00a0<br \/>\nscrewed by the situation they had no control over they&#8217;re on the other side of that now which is\u00a0<br \/>\ngood they sacrificed everything for streaming\u00a0\u00a0 craze killed many good things by forcing a demand\u00a0<br \/>\nfor content that could have possibly met putting movies on TV before they had a proper theatrical\u00a0<br \/>\nrun and much more the insanity has died down\u00a0\u00a0 balanced out everywhere thank God leave me the\u00a0<br \/>\n[\u00a0__\u00a0] alone you didn&#8217;t say that last sentence uh as someone who is very streaming averse um I think\u00a0<br \/>\nthis is kind of the I think Marvel represents because of how big they are the macro to a very\u00a0<br \/>\nvery big problem like sorry the micro to a very big big problem like you can zoom in on Marvel\u00a0<br \/>\nand see a lot of the issues with the entertainment\u00a0\u00a0 industry because they&#8217;re the big thing yeah so\u00a0<br \/>\nI think streaming is is um often content not art i think that you need to make sure if you are a\u00a0<br \/>\nstudio making art your art should be art and not fodder and so when you&#8217;ve got mandates when you&#8217;ve\u00a0<br \/>\ngot uh certain expectations you&#8217;re already going to have all that in the nature of show business by\u00a0<br \/>\nthe nature of making a movie or a show there will\u00a0\u00a0 be mandates there will be certain expectations\u00a0<br \/>\nand dates and budgets to hit but when you then go okay triple your output and you don&#8217;t get the\u00a0<br \/>\nresources to really do it when you have two movies coming out that start shooting a year apart that\u00a0<br \/>\nare released 2 weeks apart I worry about the CGI\u00a0\u00a0 of the one that started shooting a year later like\u00a0<br \/>\nFantastic 4 literally is coming out 2 weeks after the Superman movie and it didn&#8217;t start shooting\u00a0<br \/>\nuntil Superman was almost wrapped that&#8217;s crazy for those visual effects artists but there&#8217;s a certain\u00a0<br \/>\nexpectation of output so I think Marvel is is\u00a0\u00a0 learning i think they have learned i think they&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\npivoting i think Thunderbolts is great i hope that we get a great Fantastic 4 and going forward but I\u00a0<br \/>\nthink when they were trying to do characters that weren&#8217;t as wellknown because they they were\u00a0<br \/>\ntrusting in their brand um to such a level\u00a0\u00a0 that it caused some recklessness i think when the\u00a0<br \/>\nvolume was that high I think when they didn&#8217;t have showrunners I think a lot of the things that like\u00a0<br \/>\nother companies have too but the other companies\u00a0\u00a0 aren&#8217;t as big like they don&#8217;t get as much press\u00a0<br \/>\nand notice because everyone compares to Marvel i don&#8217;t disagree with his statements and I think\u00a0<br \/>\nthat it&#8217;s a really good opportunity for the DC\u00a0\u00a0 universe to learn from the mistakes that were\u00a0<br \/>\nmade in a post everything has to go to streaming world and and selfishly as a movie theater guy\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;m glad we&#8217;re noticing because it&#8217;s been bad well something that came out today that I totally\u00a0<br \/>\nforgot to put down in the show notes uh because you said Thunderbolts i was like &#8220;Oh yeah.&#8221;\u00a0<br \/>\num July 1st is that um Jake Jake Schaefer is officially confirmed as of today to be directing\u00a0<br \/>\nthe X-Men movie what yeah it&#8217;s officially confirmed today that at least that&#8217;s what I&#8217;ve\u00a0<br \/>\ntyped in and it&#8217;s looks like deadline comic book comicbook.com and apparently after 2028 they might\u00a0<br \/>\ngo back to four movies a year jack Schaefer doing X-Men is huge right that&#8217;s the uh Wait is he the\u00a0<br \/>\none who Thunderbolts she she Jack Schaefer did Shrier godamn Thunderbolts who&#8217;s doing it who&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nJake Shrier is the one doing it x-men it&#8217;s a man&#8217;s face i don&#8217;t know anyone jack Schaefer\u00a0<br \/>\nwanda division jake Shrier thunder those are remarkably several names you&#8217;re not wrong oh my\u00a0<br \/>\ngod i cuz I heard Jake was doing it name Jake Shri i heard Jack Jake was doing it and then when you\u00a0<br \/>\njust said Jack I was like that rewrites my entire\u00a0\u00a0 theory of everything jake Shrier of Thunderbolts\u00a0<br \/>\nis a fantastic director very different tone uh W division obviously led to Agatha and that I would\u00a0<br \/>\nhave been like okay if a different team dynamic\u00a0\u00a0 different blah blah blah and they&#8217;re moving on\u00a0<br \/>\nwith with other stuff like they&#8217;re still working at Marvel but Jake I think is a great choice\u00a0<br \/>\nhe was rumored for a long time he I think have you seen Thunderbolts yet uh no it&#8217;s coming on\u00a0<br \/>\ndigital uh next week okay okay well then in uh\u00a0\u00a0 in vague terms uh the team dynamic and the idea\u00a0<br \/>\nof trauma is very important to the X-Men so I think as directors go there is a very linear line\u00a0<br \/>\nhere of like this makes sense for this director what&#8217;s cool to me as we&#8217;ve been talking about\u00a0<br \/>\nJames Gunn is this kind of reminds me of James\u00a0\u00a0 Gunn because The Suicide Squad did not do well\u00a0<br \/>\nat the box office i mean for a variety of reasons and part of me is thinking too that honestly I am\u00a0<br \/>\nwondering even if it got only a theatrical release let&#8217;s say there was no co i do wonder if it would\u00a0<br \/>\nhave really succeeded at the box office because\u00a0\u00a0 of what happened with Suicide Squad 1 not as\u00a0<br \/>\nwell-known characters in the next one and so part of me does wonder that even though it seems like\u00a0<br \/>\nit it&#8217;s loved but it&#8217;s not really talked about\u00a0\u00a0 even though it&#8217;s like my favorite of that era of\u00a0<br \/>\nDC but then he got brought on to do the bigger parts for DC yeah and same thing with Thunderbolt\u00a0<br \/>\nthunderbolts did not break even it didn&#8217;t but it&#8217;s got reputation and that is better for long-term\u00a0<br \/>\nsuccess and they still tapped him to do this rewarding the art not the business great exly\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s what reminds me of the James Gun situation what they&#8217;re paying attention to is huge so if\u00a0<br \/>\nanything there&#8217;s kind of a big learning lesson\u00a0\u00a0 from that the fact that the movie Thunderbolts\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah sure it didn&#8217;t break even but people loved it and that&#8217;s what we need as a a director who\u00a0<br \/>\ncan work with this terrain you know a lot of times it&#8217;s easy to go &#8220;This movie made a lot of money\u00a0<br \/>\ngive that director it that&#8217;s not what they&#8217;re\u00a0\u00a0 paying attention to so to your point of of like\u00a0<br \/>\nJames Gun talking about how that mandate affected everything and how Marvel&#8217;s learning this is a\u00a0<br \/>\nsign that they are learning to me even without\u00a0\u00a0 having seen Thunderbolts i I totally agree and I\u00a0<br \/>\nthink it&#8217;s an interesting sign timing wise of they know X-Men is the biggest brand they have right\u00a0<br \/>\nnow they&#8217;re trusting in a director even without\u00a0\u00a0 the finances backing it that&#8217;s a really good sign\u00a0<br \/>\nof like we know your art also means he had a great pitch means he has a vision right because you\u00a0<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t go like &#8220;Hey your movie was good and and\u00a0\u00a0 it might have lost money you&#8217;re you can stay with\u00a0<br \/>\nthe company but here&#8217;s our biggest franchise ever it&#8217;s like okay now also what is your idea because\u00a0<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re in the house like we we we&#8217;re taking these\u00a0\u00a0 meetings so I think that&#8217;s a great sign for\u00a0<br \/>\nwhatever Jake wants to do also really really nerdy articulate guy about the art like I I talked\u00a0<br \/>\nto him at the I was the I I reported at the Red Carpet for the Hollywood Reporter and he and I\u00a0<br \/>\nhad a really good conversation about comics and he\u00a0\u00a0 casually dropped like issue number references and\u00a0<br \/>\nI was like that is rare even amongst like nerds like that&#8217;s a really impressive thing like you\u00a0<br \/>\nclearly love it in a way so at the same time you know like there&#8217;s a difference to me when uh Russo\u00a0<br \/>\nbrothers did Winter Soldier versus working on an\u00a0\u00a0 Avengers movie you have a lot more bigger vision\u00a0<br \/>\nand other heads to appease in that a moment like that with all the structuring and I feel like he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nkind of running into he might run into a similar\u00a0\u00a0 situation with that like Thunderbolt sounds like\u00a0<br \/>\nto me he was able to fulfill a vision he had yeah and I think X-Men I&#8217;m wondering if he will be\u00a0<br \/>\nallowed to fulfill as much of vision as he wants i mean Marvel can&#8217;t even seem to get Blade done\u00a0<br \/>\nyou know so I&#8217;m wondering like will this really that&#8217;s my like skeptic side of of it like I see\u00a0<br \/>\nwhy attaching him to do it makes perfect sense to me but when you&#8217;re dealing with X-Men and they\u00a0<br \/>\nhave to incorporate that and it changes the world now there be a meshing of multiverse whatever\u00a0<br \/>\nthe hell they&#8217;re planning on doing there&#8217;s a\u00a0\u00a0 lot more different strings he has to work with\u00a0<br \/>\nnow of whatever that secret board meeting that Kevin Feige has in the woods or whatever it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nalso like being a showrunner cuz like you&#8217;re\u00a0\u00a0 shaping a universe that&#8217;s going to expand into\u00a0<br \/>\nmultiple movies yeah you&#8217;re not just doing X-Men you&#8217;re doing X-Men is that going to be X-Men one\u00a0<br \/>\nof three and then Xactor X Force Generation X\u00a0\u00a0 like what else because they&#8217;re not going to do one\u00a0<br \/>\nX-Men line that&#8217;s going to spread so what tone are you setting in this new leg of the entire company\u00a0<br \/>\nalso the one that Kevin Fogi is most personally\u00a0\u00a0 invested in and also the one that has the most\u00a0<br \/>\nbrand awareness of arguably any new character also the one that is probably going to have the\u00a0<br \/>\nmost other things tying to it from Secret Wars\u00a0\u00a0 like you&#8217;ve got the hardest job right now man\u00a0<br \/>\nx-men movies is finally happening and that also is a big moment and what&#8217;s but that&#8217;s strange\u00a0<br \/>\nto me it doesn&#8217;t feel like it&#8217;s taking off that piece of information i didn&#8217;t know it i typed\u00a0<br \/>\nit in and it&#8217;s like &#8220;Yep it&#8217;s real this should be like trending this should be tren that should\u00a0<br \/>\nhave been our community post questions and our uh Patreon questions that we put out.&#8221; And I\u00a0<br \/>\ndidn&#8217;t see anything in there at least at the\u00a0\u00a0 time of like pulling stuff i think Marvel can get\u00a0<br \/>\nback to a good place i don&#8217;t think any Westerns never came back to scale we like westerns but\u00a0<br \/>\nlike I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re that distant where\u00a0\u00a0 like westerns kind of died all the way and then\u00a0<br \/>\ncame back but I do think we have to look at the superhero phases as changing and I and I do think\u00a0<br \/>\nwe&#8217;re entering a different age of comic stuff i think they&#8217;re an inevit they are positioned where\u00a0<br \/>\nthey probably have to do some type of soft reboot\u00a0\u00a0 i I think X-Men is a new Avengers type team and I\u00a0<br \/>\nthink that&#8217;s smart i also think those are brandaw aware characters and it&#8217;s weird because it\u00a0<br \/>\ndoes seem like the exact thing James Gum was\u00a0\u00a0 talking about of that problem of that mandate that\u00a0<br \/>\noccurred because that is what changed everything for the genre and Marvel in a not positive\u00a0<br \/>\nway and the DCU looking so comicky and vibrant and big i feel like it&#8217;s changing things again\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah all right well damn crazy yeah so I didn&#8217;t put that down because we didn&#8217;t get to ask any\u00a0<br \/>\nquestions about it but as we were talking like\u00a0\u00a0 wait a minute there&#8217;s a there&#8217;s a big story here\u00a0<br \/>\nthat I forgot about so thanks for jogging my brain there jj Jones 5817 is the lack of publicity and\u00a0<br \/>\nmarketing for Iron Hart concerning for Marvel&#8217;s confidence in the project absolutely [\u00a0__\u00a0] no\u00a0<br \/>\nnormally they Yeah normally we see the stars and Late Night and lots of commercials and promo\u00a0<br \/>\nbut it feels like they did little with Ekko just\u00a0\u00a0 dumping it without much fanfare while Fantastic\u00a0<br \/>\n4 continues his marketing push obviously it&#8217;s a holdover from the previous era but it seems like\u00a0<br \/>\nwe should be getting a bigger marketing push\u00a0\u00a0 look guys uh no they want to they want you to\u00a0<br \/>\nforget about this as soon as possible dumping it in two chunks dump it in two chunks and they and\u00a0<br \/>\nthere was reports too that I mean I had someone from Disney even tell me that it was supposed to\u00a0<br \/>\nbe like three and then 111 i heard it was 3 3 you\u00a0\u00a0 and I had a long talk we looked it up we found\u00a0<br \/>\nout it was 3111 and then I was like what so it was clearly like in flux and then dumped yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nbut weirdly I mean they did try something which is they had Robert Downey Jr the Good Morning\u00a0<br \/>\nAmerica thing clearly Robert Downey Jr did not\u00a0\u00a0 do this of his own fition sounds to me that he was\u00a0<br \/>\nasked and he was like &#8220;Yes.&#8221; Says &#8220;Miss Thorn in my trailer I couldn&#8217;t be happier than seeing you\u00a0<br \/>\nbring Riri Williams to life iron Man loves Iron Hart.&#8221; I don&#8217;t know it just sounds like a man it\u00a0<br \/>\nsounds like he was asked that he was being nice that was a little It was cute cuz it was a an\u00a0<br \/>\nIron Heart and it was like the the millennial\u00a0\u00a0 Iron Heart and then she did like whatever the\u00a0<br \/>\nGen Z kids do and it was just funny to see the two generations and that felt like a legacy moment\u00a0<br \/>\nbetween Iron Man and Iron Heart i thought it was\u00a0\u00a0 a cute moment but it definitely was like the\u00a0<br \/>\nRussos are like hey can you Iron Heart promo i think this will have a a separate thing from Ekko\u00a0<br \/>\nthough um I I because Ekko people were showing up because I wanted to see Kingpin and Dargo oh yeah\u00a0<br \/>\ni don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll do as well as Ekko which is\u00a0\u00a0 unfortunate it won&#8217;t i think Iron Heart will be\u00a0<br \/>\nthat random odd thing that I I imagine will get a lot of flack and people probably might not love it\u00a0<br \/>\nbut then it I think it can be that thing of like you know what that show deserve more appreciation\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s that show deserved a little bit i could see\u00a0\u00a0 it becoming a bit of that cult love scrappy\u00a0<br \/>\nunderdog in Marvel like eventually i can actually see it evolving somewhat into that maybe\u00a0<br \/>\ni just feel for Alden man that&#8217;s two for two with Disney he&#8217;s got some bad luck like I just feel\u00a0<br \/>\nfor Guy yeah i don&#8217;t know what we can or can&#8217;t\u00a0\u00a0 say about it um but we are tune in to reacting\u00a0<br \/>\nto it watching it it&#8217;s a show with episodes and characters and a story and visuals and sounds tune\u00a0<br \/>\nin on the 24th for our thoughts i mean we talked we&#8217;ve talked extensively about uh that specific\u00a0<br \/>\ntopic uh I did want to acknowledge it because\u00a0\u00a0 then as you&#8217;re talking about Fantastic 4 in this\u00a0<br \/>\nin your comment Jay Jones Kevin Feige did confirm the events of Fantastic 4 will lead directly\u00a0<br \/>\ninto Avengers Doomsday see I think talks like this with with that confirming that it&#8217;s going to\u00a0<br \/>\nlead directly into Doomsday the X-Men I feel like the hype around this conversation Marvel kind of\u00a0<br \/>\nneeds and I don&#8217;t really think it&#8217;s happening this is a big thing it&#8217;s obvious that it would as we\u00a0<br \/>\nwould know that like before Dr doom of course yes it would but if they&#8217;re really this this makes it\u00a0<br \/>\nsound like this is essential viewing to watch the next Avengers movie like you have to watch this\u00a0<br \/>\nto watch the next Avengers film the big one and I think they should really be pushing that kind\u00a0<br \/>\nof information the the the the X-Men announcement\u00a0\u00a0 they should really be pushing that things like\u00a0<br \/>\nthis should be kind of taking off even if it&#8217;s obvious it should be taken off things like this\u00a0<br \/>\nshould be announced at Comic- Con to be yeah in a\u00a0\u00a0 month like putting that out there would suddenly\u00a0<br \/>\nmake it feel like there is an importance and an urgency to watch this as soon as possible i don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nknow what level they&#8217;re showing up at Comic- Con i\u00a0\u00a0 know that Fantastic 4 is coming out the week of\u00a0<br \/>\nComic- Con i know that they&#8217;re not going to be there right they&#8217;re not doing a Hall panel as far\u00a0<br \/>\nas I know i heard they weren&#8217;t but I would save an\u00a0\u00a0 announcement like this for like oh C like I would\u00a0<br \/>\ndo a casual like at another panel like maybe an artist and writers panel i would announce it at\u00a0<br \/>\nComic- Con because everyone&#8217;s scouring for news\u00a0\u00a0 like it does seem like even if you&#8217;re not going\u00a0<br \/>\nto have a whole panel but I would like this seems like a wasted opportunity because that&#8217;s a huge\u00a0<br \/>\nannouncement could be my algorithm and it could be\u00a0\u00a0 my current interests that are affecting it so I&#8217;ll\u00a0<br \/>\nacknowledge that i don&#8217;t feel like the Fantastic 4 marketing has been as strong as it can be i The\u00a0<br \/>\nbiggest thing I&#8217;ve seen in the last month is a a clothing thing they did uh like they unveiled the\u00a0<br \/>\nthe the merch and they flew a bunch of creators to New York to like they literally paid for people\u00a0<br \/>\nto go look at clothes yeah and that&#8217;s the biggest\u00a0\u00a0 I&#8217;ve seen but that&#8217;s because a bunch of my friends\u00a0<br \/>\nwin i don&#8217;t even know if I&#8217;d see that if it wasn&#8217;t for my algorithm yeah not to sound more like a\u00a0<br \/>\nDC shill but screw it let&#8217;s sound more like a DC shill for a movie I haven&#8217;t seen yet that&#8217;s the\u00a0<br \/>\nbrilliance of what James Gun&#8217;s been doing is he\u00a0\u00a0 is selling the audiences too on the future he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nselling audiences on a vision for what&#8217;s to come while promoting this one individual project and\u00a0<br \/>\nnot doubling down on Batman or Wonder Woman yet letting it be Superman&#8217;s time but acknowledging\u00a0<br \/>\nthem i think that&#8217;s great i mean this morning\u00a0\u00a0 today Friday my interview with James Gun has\u00a0<br \/>\ndropped on DC Studio Showcase so if you&#8217;d like to see some more quotes with me in them if you\u00a0<br \/>\nwant to see a video of me uh AI uh you know giving James Gunn that will be on my pull up age right\u00a0<br \/>\nnow greg&#8217;s only I&#8217;ve only been doing it verbally this whole podcast but I&#8217; I&#8217;d like a visual\u00a0<br \/>\naid we got it i mean Grock can pull that up in 30 seconds can Oh let&#8217;s do it i&#8217;m assuming let&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\ndo it can you guys make that someone now has are our podcast fans our future make one of James Gun\u00a0<br \/>\nmaking love with me this is He&#8217;s just inspired too much madness i&#8217;ll let you know right now if I was\u00a0<br \/>\non their payroll they would not let me say stuff\u00a0\u00a0 like that that&#8217;s a fair point cuz I&#8217;m sitting here\u00a0<br \/>\nuncomfortable james Gun himself might find that funny honestly knowing his sense of humor here\u00a0<br \/>\nI am just navigating this minefield but anyway yeah there&#8217;s something that has been feeling a\u00a0<br \/>\nbit lackluster about the Fantastic 4 marketing\u00a0\u00a0 to me but again it could very well just be my\u00a0<br \/>\nalgorithm i am in a tricky spot with Fantastic 4 because of like I&#8217;m very excited for about half\u00a0<br \/>\nof it and I don&#8217;t feel like anything I&#8217;ve seen has a suage those concerns it&#8217;s they&#8217;ve deepened and\u00a0<br \/>\nso I keep wanting there to be marketing that has\u00a0\u00a0 me like &#8220;Yeah Fantastic 4 is out in a month.&#8221;\u00a0<br \/>\nand instead it feels like we get it like we get another superhero movie 2 weeks after Superman\u00a0<br \/>\ni&#8217;m excited for Fantastic 4 but it feels kind\u00a0\u00a0 of like a footnote and maybe they&#8217;ll double down\u00a0<br \/>\non their marketing in the last two weeks after Superman comes out but that feels a little late\u00a0<br \/>\num they&#8217;re I mean their trailers have done really\u00a0\u00a0 well in view count the tickets on sale one got 2\u00a0<br \/>\nmillion views we didn&#8217;t actually see that trailer we skipped the trailer oh I skipped it you guys\u00a0<br \/>\nskipped it generally their trailer views tend\u00a0\u00a0 to do pretty well i hope the movie does well i\u00a0<br \/>\nhope the movie makes so much money like I want Marvel to have a win i just don&#8217;t feel it yet it\u00a0<br \/>\nneeds to blow [\u00a0__\u00a0] out the water it it cannot be uh they can&#8217;t have three movies in a row\u00a0<br \/>\nthat don&#8217;t break even no they can&#8217;t do that man and and I think this looks great like the\u00a0<br \/>\nmarketing like the the visuals what man has\u00a0\u00a0 done but it needs to do better than great like\u00a0<br \/>\nit has to do a lot and and they&#8217;re also really pushing their a couple of their Disney Plus\u00a0<br \/>\nshows john and I were at the Grove yesterday\u00a0\u00a0 uh when we saw 28 years later and they um we were\u00a0<br \/>\nnoticing like the amount of Agatha all along for your consideration and Daredevil Born Again for\u00a0<br \/>\nCharlie Cox and Vincent Denaf they were like it&#8217;s like damn what is with the insane push around this\u00a0<br \/>\nentire shopping center for these two show i&#8217;m like I don&#8217;t feel like they&#8217;re going to get nominated\u00a0<br \/>\nfor anything um but it&#8217;s cool to see that they\u00a0\u00a0 have faith to try yeah i feel like Fantastic\u00a0<br \/>\n4 needs a level of push yeah and Cammy Co4 is saying um let me really quick do you guys feel\u00a0<br \/>\ncompletely opposite please tell us the comments honestly like that&#8217;s a real question I&#8217;m asking\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause yeah I I&#8217;m fully aware of the entrapment\u00a0\u00a0 of an algorithm and and I also aware that I&#8217;m at\u00a0<br \/>\nDC Studios like often so my I literally probably have that in my rhythm like as part of my tracking\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah and I&#8217;m generally more interested in Superman so maybe the rest of you have like tons of\u00a0<br \/>\nfit as like they might be like I&#8217;d barely get\u00a0\u00a0 Superman [\u00a0__\u00a0] but I get a ton of Fantastic\u00a0<br \/>\n4 you know not trolling i would love to know like please be a litmus test not just your bias\u00a0<br \/>\nlike what are you more exposed to a thousand%\u00a0\u00a0 um Camo for and I want to know what you think\u00a0<br \/>\nkoi saying an untitled Marvel movie has been slated to release on December 15 2028 uh what\u00a0<br \/>\ndo you think that is that makes a lot of sense why the [\u00a0__\u00a0] didn&#8217;t I put that again right\u00a0<br \/>\nthat is so obvious like Avengers especially after all the talking we just had i&#8217;m like why\u00a0<br \/>\nam I even asking this question it&#8217;s obviously\u00a0\u00a0 Avengers Avengers X-Men i think I think X-Men\u00a0<br \/>\ni think we get two Avengers movie and an X-Men movie uh cuz I think it&#8217;d be cool to have a team\u00a0<br \/>\nmovie that we know team movie that we know bring\u00a0\u00a0 in the new team have Secret Wars set that up\u00a0<br \/>\nhave it be a big winter release have a huge opening i think it&#8217;s I think it breaks i think\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s Yeah pretty big slam dough it&#8217;s why they\u00a0\u00a0 mentioned that that they they have the untitled\u00a0<br \/>\nthing and then they announce the director they got a director they got a date it&#8217;s not obviously\u00a0<br \/>\nX-Men oh my god it&#8217;s also too big of a deal it&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 obviously X-Men yeah i&#8217;d be shocked if it&#8217;s not\u00a0<br \/>\nX-Men i think it&#8217;s an Iron Fist movie with Finn Jones finn Jones is back and he gets a movie\u00a0<br \/>\ni got John on mic for that danny W guys Finn Finn Jones is coming back December let&#8217;s do it\u00a0<br \/>\nbaby well there&#8217;s also a nuked DC film right um I mean what did James Gun set my man James Gun\u00a0<br \/>\nuh everybody wanted to make the movie greg&#8217;s out here trying to clean James ready to go just trying\u00a0<br \/>\nto clean that Glock out we got invited to unload that silent we did get invited to a thing that\u00a0<br \/>\nthey said James Gun will be at like an intimate\u00a0\u00a0 reception and I&#8217;m like I&#8217;m praying to God now\u00a0<br \/>\nthat I do i literally intimate are we talking I open this episode is like I hope James watches\u00a0<br \/>\nand I&#8217;ve regretted it every minute i&#8217;m going to\u00a0\u00a0 be that weird fan that&#8217;s just pulls up my phone\u00a0<br \/>\nand be like &#8220;Hit play.&#8221; What do you think man um everybody wanted to make the movie it was\u00a0<br \/>\ngreen lit ready to go the screenplay wasn&#8217;t ready i couldn&#8217;t do a movie where the screenplay\u00a0<br \/>\nis not good i mean it sounds to me they&#8217;re talking\u00a0\u00a0 about Sergeant Rock because that seemed like it\u00a0<br \/>\nwas good to go and then now it&#8217;s not sergeant Rock gay uh there are elements of the story that\u00a0<br \/>\ncould be gay i don&#8217;t think of the character as\u00a0\u00a0 gay but they&#8217;re like it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a I just associate\u00a0<br \/>\nLuca Guadito it&#8217;s going to be gay now it&#8217;s gay but like the character I could see it going that way\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s not like part of the character that I have\u00a0\u00a0 cannon but like he&#8217;s got a team that I could\u00a0<br \/>\neasily fly away like fights Nazis because he&#8217;s like I got to get like this it&#8217;s the homosexual\u00a0<br \/>\nrepression of that era i&#8217;ve always thought Nazis\u00a0\u00a0 were gay like I the leather and the the marching i\u00a0<br \/>\nalways thought that was like a way for people that were oppressed to like find a group of guys he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\npunching it down this is a movie about him coming\u00a0\u00a0 to terms accepting his homosexual i think more gay\u00a0<br \/>\npeople join into those type of communities what communities like the like the Nazis you think wow\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat a statement made oh you mean people who don&#8217;t accept that don&#8217;t accept that they are oh you mean\u00a0<br \/>\nlike the the hardcore like certain religious folk who are obviously like you know Yeah I think\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s what it is those are two ways to go into certain controversies in the news that get buried\u00a0<br \/>\npeople because he knows certainly not that and then they go abomination yep and that leads to\u00a0<br \/>\nmore yeah i think that what you were saying you\u00a0\u00a0 know and he could be the he could be Sergeant\u00a0<br \/>\nRock could be the rockar baby yeah i think Sergeant James Gun I think Sergeant Rock would\u00a0<br \/>\nbe James Buns james Buns oh yeah what do you What was the joke i used to say what do you call James\u00a0<br \/>\nGun&#8217;s glutes what do you call James Gun when he&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 toning his glutes yeah james once i used to have\u00a0<br \/>\na job at DC Studio Showcase anyway um yeah but I think Sergeant Rock could lend itself to having a\u00a0<br \/>\ncommentary on Soldiers and that like environment because I think that it it was like 20 years ago\u00a0<br \/>\nwhen we got don&#8217;t ask don&#8217;t tell and all that\u00a0\u00a0 stuff could be our Broke Mac Mountain man that&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat I&#8217;m saying in the DC universe it it could be the Spartans used 20th anniversary of Brokeback\u00a0<br \/>\nthis week yeah that&#8217;s what I mean spartans used\u00a0\u00a0 to make love to each other and we disregarded that\u00a0<br \/>\nin 300 entirely yeah yeah i I also think it&#8217;s like part of a culture that like thrived the Roman\u00a0<br \/>\nEmpire lasted way longer than American empire is they needed to that makes you develop the intimacy\u00a0<br \/>\ntoo with people to want to protect and connect i think it should be a mandate in US armies\u00a0<br \/>\neverybody just I hope all people we met someone yesterday Josh hey how you doing Josh who&#8217;s who&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\na from the Navy john or Marine navy the Marines marines marines m and uh yeah I would say like\u00a0<br \/>\nJosh if you&#8217;re watching you should be making love to uh all your fellow officers simpify well you\u00a0<br \/>\nknow I mean certain armies of of the olden days thought that you would fight harder for your buddy\u00a0<br \/>\nif you That&#8217;s what you&#8217;re saying that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m\u00a0\u00a0 saying about the Spartans yeah exactly there you\u00a0<br \/>\ngo and sometimes I mean I was listening to you on the boat totally so it also means sometimes they\u00a0<br \/>\nfight harder i think they should James you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re doing man you got to bring the\u00a0<br \/>\nSergeant Rock movie back movie we just wrote this\u00a0\u00a0 idea that we don&#8217;t know if that was the movie but\u00a0<br \/>\nboy oh boy I was excited for that movie cuz like you remember we covered Creature Commandos and I\u00a0<br \/>\nwas like &#8220;Oh my god it&#8217;s Arthur Rock.&#8221; You were\u00a0\u00a0 like &#8220;I have no idea.&#8221; And like I was like &#8220;It&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\na character that could be really relevant and I think it&#8217;s a good way to do um a more normal story\u00a0<br \/>\nthat has crazy elements to show the range of what the DCU can be.&#8221; So the fact that it fell apart\u00a0<br \/>\nis shocking uh I don&#8217;t know if this is what the\u00a0\u00a0 quote is about but I&#8217;m very curious i mean the the\u00a0<br \/>\npositive to me is that he is confirming there&#8217;s something kind of badass to me about I mean not\u00a0<br \/>\nthis isn&#8217;t a Batirl thing where they you know\u00a0\u00a0 they did a whole thing and then they&#8217;re like bam\u00a0<br \/>\nyou can never see it yeah this is different it&#8217;s they didn&#8217;t even start shooting it or anything\u00a0<br \/>\nhow many movies get started without a script or\u00a0\u00a0 not good and he is a man of his word and he said\u00a0<br \/>\nhe wouldn&#8217;t do [\u00a0__\u00a0] like this and the fact that he&#8217;s that he&#8217;s like saying &#8220;Yeah we didn&#8217;t do it\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause of this reason.&#8221; Yeah that&#8217;s a good sign\u00a0\u00a0 about starcher of the DC universe that&#8217;s a great\u00a0<br \/>\nsign side note this is the most homoerotic podcast we&#8217;ve done and that&#8217;s impressive considering three\u00a0<br \/>\nweeks ago you were like &#8220;Look at me naked.&#8221; Or\u00a0\u00a0 effectively you were like &#8220;Oh I got a naked one\u00a0<br \/>\nI could show.&#8221; Do you it&#8217;s my wallpaper that&#8217;s bold it&#8217;s my goal lock screen my goal is to stay\u00a0<br \/>\nyour lock screen is just like you dial down the center to unlock it it&#8217;s like yeah I don&#8217;t have\u00a0<br \/>\nto reach higher i just got to maintain this is it perfect this is all it needs to be anyway did you\u00a0<br \/>\nwant a gay Sergeant Rock movie like us leave your thoughts down below clayface it&#8217;s finally been\u00a0<br \/>\ncast coy um who no one&#8217;s really talking about it either i know this guy Tom Ree Harris he&#8217;s got\u00a0<br \/>\na very unique look strong cheek he looks like he was made out of clay molded by the gods and\u00a0<br \/>\nbrought to life holy [\u00a0__\u00a0] this guy&#8217;s photo oh my god who is he what&#8217;s he been in why did I do no\u00a0<br \/>\nresearch a Dragon Heart movie that&#8217;s kind of crazy that we&#8217;re actually getting a Clayface movie man\u00a0<br \/>\ni keep saying Walt Flanigan mike Flanigan wrote Yeah Walt Flanigan is his less successful brother\u00a0<br \/>\nyep it&#8217;s a clerk&#8217;s character he&#8217;s living in Mike&#8217;s shadow walt he&#8217;s got like the string hair he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nbalding he just won&#8217;t shave just poor just doing his best looks like the BTK killer anyway um yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nI mean I&#8217;m excited for him to to be doing this mike Flanigan said that it was really inspired\u00a0<br \/>\nby the Batman the Animated series episode which played on the actor portrayal of Clayface yeah and\u00a0<br \/>\nI think that&#8217;s really fun for an actor that looks\u00a0\u00a0 like such an actor like I don&#8217;t know anything\u00a0<br \/>\nabout this dude but it&#8217;s like oh yeah that&#8217;s what an actor looks like so I&#8217;m really curious to\u00a0<br \/>\nsee what like that level of supernatural blended\u00a0\u00a0 with Mike Flanigan&#8217;s very like he&#8217;s his stuff&#8217;s so\u00a0<br \/>\nscary but so like supernatural and grounded so I&#8217;m really curious what that&#8217;s like with Clayface\u00a0<br \/>\ni wonder if they&#8217;re going to use a blend of\u00a0\u00a0 practicality and uh CGI it&#8217;s like the thing yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nexactly i mean if they go full CGI it&#8217;ll be hard to do Clayface without CGI oh it&#8217;ll need a ton i\u00a0<br \/>\njust hope it&#8217;s like you know in a way that feels photoreal not like too farical or too big yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah that&#8217;s that that&#8217;s kind of the odd part\u00a0\u00a0 when you&#8217;re an actor doing a role like this is um\u00a0<br \/>\nwhen you&#8217;re associated with not your actual face but but a different thing entirely that you&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nembodying yeah yeah yeah i have no idea what this one&#8217;s going to be it&#8217;s kind of crazy how quick\u00a0<br \/>\nthis is coming along yeah because it wasn&#8217;t in\u00a0\u00a0 the original announcement and James Gun even said\u00a0<br \/>\nthis wasn&#8217;t something that they were planning and then the script was so good this is the opposite\u00a0<br \/>\nof whatever that other project was the script\u00a0\u00a0 was so so good we developed rapidly so you&#8217;re\u00a0<br \/>\nsaying if I write my gay Sergeant Rock movie a good enough screenplay James Gun might actually\u00a0<br \/>\nmake it sergeant oh baby the one part we got to mute we danced around a lot of words today and\u00a0<br \/>\nhe finally did get whatever time it is 1 hour 2 minutes looking at Sergeant Hard Rock right had\u00a0<br \/>\nto put it in there just like Sergeant Rock pg-13 we&#8217;re doing so good well now I know how long we&#8217;ve\u00a0<br \/>\nbeen to it&#8217;s an hour and two minutes we can do gay\u00a0\u00a0 face oh nice nice nice we It&#8217;s in the air today\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat if we get some like gay gay movies come on i mean more mainstream gay films challengers gay\u00a0<br \/>\nface would be great actually his identity is super fluid yeah yeah nicely done we should get more\u00a0<br \/>\nlike gay movies why are people so opposed to that oh wait that&#8217;s a [\u00a0__\u00a0] twoour conversation hello\u00a0<br \/>\nare you trying to unpack bigotry we&#8217;ve obviously talked a lot about this before unpacked the\u00a0<br \/>\nhuman condition never mind all right that&#8217;s good on the clay face one saying I think Nazis are gay\u00a0<br \/>\nwasn&#8217;t enough for Greg all right 20 one of our top comments came in it is a really simple one from\u00a0<br \/>\nBeat Street says 28 years later in F1 i was like\u00a0\u00a0 &#8220;Okay what do I do with that?&#8221; Um come out soon uh\u00a0<br \/>\nwell 28 weeks later got a high recommendation from John and I you have a high recommendation as well\u00a0<br \/>\num I I&#8217;m very curious to see if audiences will like that the most divisive movie I&#8217;ve seen this\u00a0<br \/>\nyear i can totally imag even on the crit something\u00a0\u00a0 to be mindful of the critic side is like even\u00a0<br \/>\nthough it&#8217;s got a high rating when you open it if you look at the actual you know numbers yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nyou&#8217;re like oh it&#8217;s a lot of lot it&#8217;s more closer to like it&#8217;s above mid but closer to mid for\u00a0<br \/>\na lot of people than you&#8217;d expect um so it&#8217;s not as glowing a as a high glowing as you might\u00a0<br \/>\nthink it is from initially opening like a 93% uh but for audiences in particular I&#8217;m like I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\nthink film buff audiences might really love this but I mean like 28 Days Later and 28 Weeks Later\u00a0<br \/>\nare so accessible um still even though 28 Days Later is such a strange way to capture a movie it\u00a0<br \/>\nwas terrifying it was a talk and it was the one of the first films at the time to like well this\u00a0<br \/>\nfeels so real this doesn&#8217;t feel like a movie so\u00a0\u00a0 it was still very effective and this one is like a\u00a0<br \/>\nstrange sensory surreal or trip it&#8217;s a dream it&#8217;s like when you say nightmare it doesn&#8217;t mean just\u00a0<br \/>\nlike a horror movie it feels like a fever dream\u00a0\u00a0 yeah i was definitely having moments of like I\u00a0<br \/>\nfeel like mildly hallucinating like it&#8217;s a lot of stimuli and like I loved it but I like weird\u00a0<br \/>\nstuff we walked out uh a friend of the pod Jasmine i watched it with Jasmine and we literally like we\u00a0<br \/>\nwere leaving i was giddy cuz I spent the last like\u00a0\u00a0 20 minutes like &#8220;Oh I can&#8217;t believe this movie.&#8221;\u00a0<br \/>\nAnd then like everyone around me dead silent as we walked out and there was a moment of like everyone\u00a0<br \/>\nlooking at each other and Jasmine just went that\u00a0\u00a0 was the most koi movie ever i don&#8217;t know if anyone\u00a0<br \/>\nelse is going to like it and I stand by her review cuz that was my experience of me being like I\u00a0<br \/>\ndon&#8217;t know if people like this very much John&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 flavor too dude it&#8217;s so weird i I mean John text\u00a0<br \/>\nJohn never texts john is not a texter it&#8217;s just not who he is i got a text from John which is\u00a0<br \/>\nalways alarming because I&#8217;m like is everything\u00a0\u00a0 okay okay this is exciting it&#8217;s a good text but\u00a0<br \/>\nlike I&#8217;ve texted John 17 times in a row without response and I hate texting i got a text from John\u00a0<br \/>\nwalking out of the movie going that was so what&#8217; you say what&#8217;s your quote i said bro that movie\u00a0<br \/>\nwas nuts cuz I ranted at you as vague as I could that like you were going to love it i loved it who\u00a0<br \/>\nelse might but like to get a text from John he was in it&#8217;s strange people will walk in expecting it\u00a0<br \/>\nto be the part three to the trilogy but really it&#8217;s definitely a part one of a new trilogy oh\u00a0<br \/>\nthey&#8217;ve green lit like what&#8217;s crazy do you know this do you know how they green lit this i mean\u00a0<br \/>\nthey they finished they&#8217;re almost done with two\u00a0\u00a0 right now right and and three happens if one and\u00a0<br \/>\ntwo do well that&#8217;s what I wanted to talk about yeah that&#8217;s what I want to talk about with F1\u00a0<br \/>\nand 28 Days Later because both are original films\u00a0\u00a0 i like even though this is like an IP already and\u00a0<br \/>\nis a sequel it&#8217;s the with the way it is and the fact that Sony let Danny Bole and Alex Garland\u00a0<br \/>\nlike sure we&#8217;ll produce your like very weird society movie that feels like a strange nightmare\u00a0<br \/>\nyou had after the pandemic yeah let&#8217;s freaking do this um I&#8217;m going to go through some numbers\u00a0<br \/>\nhere f1 you gave a high recommendation to me\u00a0\u00a0 yes yeah even that&#8217;s at 80% on Rotten Tomatoes\u00a0<br \/>\nwhich is surprising to me i I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s as good as Top Gun Maverick i don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nas rewatchable as Top Gun Maverick i think it\u00a0\u00a0 feels the most like I&#8217;ve felt leaving a movie\u00a0<br \/>\nin that movie theater summer feeling since Top Gun Maverick okay so here&#8217;s I&#8217;m going to break\u00a0<br \/>\ndown some numbers for you okay F1 Brad Pitt movie $200 million production budget some reports claim\u00a0<br \/>\n300 break even point roughly 4 to500 million if it&#8217;s $200 million $600 to $900 million if it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\n300 million opening weekend projection at time of recording this is 30 to40 million domest 30 to 40\u00a0<br \/>\nit&#8217;s not high it&#8217;s missing a zero but the um but it&#8217;s Apple they can lose money apple can lose\u00a0<br \/>\nand Apple right now I think really cares about getting prestige quality around their uh their\u00a0<br \/>\ntheir streaming service and Apple is they&#8217;re weird because if it&#8217;s not something they think in\u00a0<br \/>\nhigh regard they just put it on Apple but if it\u00a0\u00a0 is something they love for a movie they&#8217;re like\u00a0<br \/>\n&#8220;Let&#8217;s put it in theaters.&#8221; Can I I need to say something about Apple I&#8217;ve been thinking about\u00a0<br \/>\na lot you know how in every fictional narrative\u00a0\u00a0 or daydream when people are like you know if I\u00a0<br \/>\nhad a billion dollars I would do things totally differently and we always say like I can&#8217;t believe\u00a0<br \/>\nI feel like Apple is that crazy billionaire that actually is just like what if we just make art\u00a0<br \/>\ni don&#8217;t need money back just make it and this F1 feels the most like I&#8217;ve ever felt like Apple&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\njust like I don&#8217;t know light a pile of money on\u00a0\u00a0 fire we&#8217;ll film it and I&#8217;m okay with it because\u00a0<br \/>\nso many billionaires and so many rich people are stealing art and shelving art and getting tax\u00a0<br \/>\nwrite offs from ruining art and Apple feels like they&#8217;re like &#8220;Yeah I got to see a cool movie.&#8221; So\u00a0<br \/>\nlike F1 is that and I like that more than I like parts of F1 and I liked F1 a lot this has to make\u00a0<br \/>\nso much money though it&#8217;s not the like it&#8217;s not I I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;ll break even and but like I\u00a0<br \/>\nsaid there&#8217;s a bigger like we&#8217;ve been talking\u00a0\u00a0 about there&#8217;s a there&#8217;s a bigger endgame here\u00a0<br \/>\nthat they have whereas with 28 days later um the production budget is uh reported to be between 60\u00a0<br \/>\nto 75 million so break even point is 150 and 187 million um the opening weekend projection is\u00a0<br \/>\ncurrently between 28 to $45 million they both have equally steep hills to climb because that&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nth that that&#8217;s I mean I think legs-wise F1 has the summer obviously Superman&#8217;s going to dent it\u00a0<br \/>\nJurassic&#8217;s going to dent it all those things but\u00a0\u00a0 like it&#8217;s going to be one of those movies that\u00a0<br \/>\npeople want to see through the summer 28 is very like a certain audience that&#8217;s an expensive horror\u00a0<br \/>\nmovie too it&#8217;s so weird it&#8217;s saying like weird and strange it&#8217;s also very much a horror movie a\u00a0<br \/>\nthousand% i would I would not disregard that\u00a0\u00a0 genre sometimes you walk into these horror movies\u00a0<br \/>\nand you&#8217;re like &#8220;Okay that was a that was a drama about grief with some horrors.&#8221; You know this\u00a0<br \/>\nis a horror movie this is like a horror movie\u00a0\u00a0 and uh so I think like with hor and horror tends\u00a0<br \/>\nto be pretty big but horror tends to not be made for this much money this is a blockbuster horror\u00a0<br \/>\nbudget and like I hope it has the audience because\u00a0\u00a0 I think they deserve it and I think the hopefully\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat I&#8217;m hoping is that budget includes some of two yeah yeah I&#8217;m hoping they filmed like cuz Nia\u00a0<br \/>\nDcasta is doing the second one and I&#8217;m a huge fan of her Candyman and it made decent money and I\u00a0<br \/>\nthink maybe if that budget includes some of two\u00a0\u00a0 then they can look at the average yeah yeah oh\u00a0<br \/>\nmy god terrible producing skills uh our patron pal catch Marik he did say it seems like a lot\u00a0<br \/>\nof people are saying that 28 years later is a good film just with a quite a different vibe from\u00a0<br \/>\nthe original and that it clearly sets up a bigger\u00a0\u00a0 story ending on a cliffhanger do you think it\u00a0<br \/>\nmight hurt the box office and therefore the chance of the third movie getting financed uh yeah maybe\u00a0<br \/>\ni don&#8217;t know i think that ending note was going to be very divisive for people and that determines\u00a0<br \/>\nwhat you leave people feeling says a lot you know and and the movie has you feeling a lot and up\u00a0<br \/>\nand down and up and down and left and right you&#8217;re like so stimulated and then it still pivots like\u00a0<br \/>\nthe movie is already so like to have the end be that crazy felt weird on top of the weird and so\u00a0<br \/>\nbut I&#8217;m excited for two because the ending I don&#8217;t want to say much uh but I mean it&#8217;s like it it&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\na it&#8217;s a bit of a tonal cell too you know that that might have people because one thing I I I I\u00a0<br \/>\nwas I was trying to forewarn people about is that some people might watch that movie and think &#8220;Oh\u00a0<br \/>\nman what the hell it&#8217;s just a part one it doesn&#8217;t\u00a0\u00a0 complete it.&#8221; But it does complete character\u00a0<br \/>\narcs yeah so it does complete the journey of of the specific story they&#8217;re telling but it very\u00a0<br \/>\nclearly does something that&#8217;s like we&#8217;re making a part two you know and I like I mean they could\u00a0<br \/>\nhave even done that as like a postredit if they\u00a0\u00a0 wanted to but like it&#8217;s long and great and awesome\u00a0<br \/>\nand weird but like it&#8217;s it&#8217;s I like the swing yeah man i I want to I want to elaborate why it&#8217;s good\u00a0<br \/>\nfor the movie that they didn&#8217;t make it a postredit uh but it would definitely be a spoiler if I said\u00a0<br \/>\nanything so I&#8217;m not going to so next Friday live maybe if someone will ask yeah yeah do it ask set\u00a0<br \/>\nus up um do you guys think this will these will do well this is like crazy stuff i&#8217;m excited to\u00a0<br \/>\nsee how it plays out these are two crazy numbers\u00a0\u00a0 in a crazy time for movies oh Jesus Christ but\u00a0<br \/>\nI waited personally I waited to see both of them before I made my top 10 in the first half of the\u00a0<br \/>\nyear cuz I assumed they&#8217;d make my top 10 they&#8217;re\u00a0\u00a0 both worthy of that they&#8217;re both great well moving\u00a0<br \/>\non hustel 2010 um well I forget have you seen any of the Saw movies uh one and two back when they\u00a0<br \/>\ncame out well Blumhouse should Lee Wel direct the new Blumhouse Saw movie now that he and James Juan\u00a0<br \/>\nhave creative rights again this excites me a lot so James Juan and Lee Wel two two powerhouse names\u00a0<br \/>\nright now in the directing field uh they started off in the industry with the first Saw movie lee\u00a0<br \/>\nLee was in it lee Wel is the co-star and he wrote it and James Juan directed it and then it became\u00a0<br \/>\na massive franchise i don&#8217;t think Lee Wel stayed on right John like for anything i know James Juan\u00a0<br \/>\nleft but Lee Wel didn&#8217;t stay on either like he he\u00a0\u00a0 wrote the first three oh he wrote the first three\u00a0<br \/>\noh I forgot that okay so Lee Wel&#8217;s been but Leewel eventually found his way into directing yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause he was mainly just a screenwriter actor for a long time and now he&#8217;s a well- reggarded\u00a0<br \/>\ndirector even though Invisible Man was not the reception that people were hope not Invisible Man\u00a0<br \/>\nWolf Man was not the reception people were hoping\u00a0\u00a0 for i mean he&#8217;s done Upgrade Insidious 3 people\u00a0<br \/>\nliked Invisible Man so I think he&#8217;s done enough films to be miss he&#8217;s a pretty great director and\u00a0<br \/>\nI think his miss like I liked Wolfman more than\u00a0\u00a0 the average but I think even though I didn&#8217;t like\u00a0<br \/>\nit could see merit in it i think he I think it&#8217;d be a great choice and what James Juan uh said is\u00a0<br \/>\nthat Saw holds a special place in my heart coming back to this world with a fresh perspective is\u00a0<br \/>\nboth thrilling and deeply personal for me this\u00a0\u00a0 will mark a significant creative return to the Saw\u00a0<br \/>\nfranchise for the first time since the early days and I&#8217;m very much looking forward to embracing the\u00a0<br \/>\noriginal spirit while pushing the legacy forward\u00a0\u00a0 in bold unexpected ways i mean it kind of sounds\u00a0<br \/>\nlike a general statement that he didn&#8217;t write but it&#8217;s the PR team doing a great job telling him\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah it&#8217;s it&#8217;s a good statement um but that that&#8217;s the weird thing with the Saw franchise and I I\u00a0<br \/>\nthink John might agree with me on this is that\u00a0\u00a0 it seems like every Saw movie lately has been\u00a0<br \/>\nlike we&#8217;re going to take a new direction we&#8217;re going to take a new direction it&#8217;s been like\u00a0<br \/>\nthat three movies in a row and then the last\u00a0\u00a0 one was the was the first Saw movie to get great\u00a0<br \/>\nreviews it got great reviews it sets up a sequel um even though it&#8217;s a prequel it still sets up a\u00a0<br \/>\nsequel and it&#8217;s the like I said it was the first one I was like &#8220;Wow this is kind of like loved\u00a0<br \/>\nby audiences and critics this is unusual for\u00a0\u00a0 Saw.&#8221; And now it sounds like they&#8217;re not going\u00a0<br \/>\nto follow through with that and they&#8217;re going to start something different again that the the\u00a0<br \/>\nthe divide that I have is that at the end of the day what they did set up with the last one\u00a0<br \/>\nis a sequel to a prequel this sounds like they wouldn&#8217;t be doing that [\u00a0__\u00a0] so even though I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;d be disappointed of them not following up I&#8217;d rather I&#8217;m I&#8217;m excited with the OGs the ones who\u00a0<br \/>\nactually created this that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;ll be good doesn&#8217;t always mean it&#8217;ll be good sometimes\u00a0<br \/>\nyou get Ridley Scott wanting to make a bunch of random sequels and then you get a Danny Boyle want\u00a0<br \/>\nto make a weird like &#8220;All right I&#8217;m I&#8217;ll show you guys something new,&#8221; you know so I hope this is\u00a0<br \/>\nmore of the Danny Boyle and less the Ridley Scott\u00a0\u00a0 i like that parallel and I and I think we won&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nknow until it&#8217;s out because they&#8217;re such bold filmmakers they could make a bold swing that\u00a0<br \/>\ndoesn&#8217;t work or they could make a bold swing and\u00a0\u00a0 like have a brand new soft franchise and I think\u00a0<br \/>\nJames Juan would love that like I I think we could leave we might leave Tobin Bell even that&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nthat&#8217;s my point he&#8217;s not I mean how do you do\u00a0\u00a0 fellow kids is only going to last so long that man\u00a0<br \/>\ncan only put on so many hats and try to be 20 and like James Juan you know he was doing the Aquaman\u00a0<br \/>\nmovies and in between that he did Malignant and and uh that was like such an experimental film of\u00a0<br \/>\nhis as well i think James Juan especially after what happened with Aquaman I think he&#8217;s itching\u00a0<br \/>\nto do something that is like that&#8217;s his creative\u00a0\u00a0 and weird and he&#8217;s got a good relationship with\u00a0<br \/>\nBlumbhouse and these two are like clearly best friends uh I would and Blumbhouse could use the\u00a0<br \/>\nwin of a new franchise like they&#8217;re killing it but\u00a0\u00a0 like how great would it be if they have Saw and it\u00a0<br \/>\ntakes off and there&#8217;s 10 new ones how great would it be if there&#8217;s like a cinematic universe yeah\u00a0<br \/>\na shared universe of of haunted dolls and Saw we\u00a0\u00a0 did like an animated movie about that puppet yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nwe do a prequel and a sequel and a spin-off and we call it Ballerina oh I love that john Wick prequel\u00a0<br \/>\nfemale sequel saws only women lady Sawer is dope though all female victims the male bad guy yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nyeah cuz woke yeah a white buff guy yeah the guy was playing Clayface that&#8217;s him he&#8217;s so handsome\u00a0<br \/>\ngreat cheekbones anyway are you guys excited for this Tom Cruz oscar Caden Finch 3343 says Tom\u00a0<br \/>\nCruz is officially getting some weird Oscar um they&#8217;re giving him the honorary Oscar for his\u00a0<br \/>\ncommitment to our film making community theatrical experience and to the stunts community here&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\na Can I say something first Koi please conan O&#8217;Brien is returning to host that&#8217;s a I He&#8217;s my\u00a0<br \/>\nhero my hero no one else in the industry I would say is my hero he&#8217;s my hero tom Cruz and him once\u00a0<br \/>\ndid a bit together uh did you ever see it where they&#8217;re like driving around in a car at at his I\u00a0<br \/>\ndid i forgot about that so funny and like people forget how funny Tom Cruz can be because he&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nso like a serious he seems like such a serious\u00a0\u00a0 crazy guy yeah but he&#8217;s a he brings the same\u00a0<br \/>\nintensity to comedy though yeah he&#8217;s great at comedy great at comedy i what what excites me\u00a0<br \/>\nabout this is I feel like Conan would want to do some type of crazy bit with Tom Cruz i would\u00a0<br \/>\nlove to see Tom Cruz on the podcast first of all uh Conan needs a friend uh that would be our\u00a0<br \/>\npodcast i mean it&#8217;d be great to have him here\u00a0\u00a0 sure tom but Tim and Conan would be amazing and I\u00a0<br \/>\nfeel like this would give that opportunity and to do like bits together that&#8217;s a thing but how do\u00a0<br \/>\nyou feel about Tom Cruz getting this award uh I\u00a0\u00a0 think that the stunt Oscar is so overdue that it\u00a0<br \/>\ncould easily start with Tom Cruz but so weird not actual stunt men i mean he is like but it&#8217;s like\u00a0<br \/>\nlet&#8217;s go with Tom Cruz but you know what I mean\u00a0\u00a0 like I feel like this is the response to that\u00a0<br \/>\nis we&#8217;re getting a stunt coordinator like we&#8217;re getting a stunt award finally and I feel like with\u00a0<br \/>\nMission Impossible coming out a lot of people be\u00a0\u00a0 like Tom Cruz like he&#8217;s changed stunts i think\u00a0<br \/>\nthis is so that doesn&#8217;t happen i think we need to give an actual stunt like team an an Oscar so\u00a0<br \/>\nthis is a great way to have it be like that and Tom Cruz uh and I think doing the stunt thing\u00a0<br \/>\nnow aren&#8217;t that&#8217;s what I&#8217;m saying is is I&#8217;m I\u00a0\u00a0 would be afraid that with the Mission Impossible\u00a0<br \/>\nstunt awareness it would end up being Tom Cruz&#8217;s so it&#8217;s good to give another one to Tom Cruz cuz\u00a0<br \/>\nhe has I mean he&#8217;s done the impossible he&#8217;s the movie star that is keeping theaters open like when\u00a0<br \/>\nyou think Tom Cruz you think stunts and his love\u00a0\u00a0 of the theater and then his movies so I think\u00a0<br \/>\nthat the Academy which is about motion picture arts and sciences should honor him like Angela\u00a0<br \/>\nBasset got one the year after they didn&#8217;t give\u00a0\u00a0 her one for Black Panther so like Tom Cruz should\u00a0<br \/>\nget one after 40 years of them not giving him one he&#8217;s been nominated he&#8217;s never gotten one to my\u00a0<br \/>\nknowledge it&#8217;s time Tom i mean we were talking\u00a0\u00a0 last week extensively about how the way Tom Cruz\u00a0<br \/>\nhas been truly the champion for cinema how that&#8217;s influenced the way I see certain things because\u00a0<br \/>\nof the way Tom Cruz has gone about it and has made me realize more about community in film versus\u00a0<br \/>\ncompetition in film and the significance and the importance of that and how one success elevates\u00a0<br \/>\nthe other to succeed and that&#8217;s why he promotes other movie studios and other films that he has\u00a0<br \/>\nnothing to do with yeah because he understands\u00a0\u00a0 that it&#8217;s so much more than just his movie\u00a0<br \/>\nsucceeding it&#8217;s about everyone succeeding and so yeah I think like the the key words here about\u00a0<br \/>\nour commitment to our film making community if someone were to say who deserves that award right\u00a0<br \/>\nnow I&#8217;m like Tom Cruz yeah undoubtedly Tom Cruz\u00a0\u00a0 so yeah I think he&#8217;s absolutely deserving of this\u00a0<br \/>\ni mean I find honorary Oscars a little bit like funny um but if you&#8217;re going to do it it&#8217;s a good\u00a0<br \/>\none to give i want to shout this out really quick youtuber Chris Stuckman his movie is officially\u00a0<br \/>\ncoming out oaks on October 3rd in theaters neon is uh distributing it they&#8217;ve doubled the film&#8217;s\u00a0<br \/>\nbudget to add more gore and violence this is one\u00a0\u00a0 of the most inspirational things I&#8217;ve seen this\u00a0<br \/>\nman do i&#8217;ve had the pleasure of talking to him a couple of times not on camera off camera and uh\u00a0<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s an incredibly nice guy i I am so thrilled for the fact that he he changed his YouTube channel\u00a0<br \/>\nso he can pursue the which which led to a lot of backlash for him um I don&#8217;t know if you know\u00a0<br \/>\nabout any of this i don&#8217;t know about the backlash\u00a0\u00a0 i I&#8217;ve met Chris a few times and I&#8217;m so happy\u00a0<br \/>\nfor him but I don&#8217;t know about the backlash uh it was that he didn&#8217;t want to do reviews anymore\u00a0<br \/>\nfor films that he didn&#8217;t like like he was very intentional about that like I do so now that he\u00a0<br \/>\nputs up now when he puts up a video it&#8217;s like &#8220;Oh\u00a0\u00a0 he must like this movie.&#8221; Oh that&#8217;s funny yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nso that was part of it and he&#8217;s had like a lot of big reviews that were like clearly about not\u00a0<br \/>\nliking stuff but that does but So sometimes she\u00a0\u00a0 just skips reviewing stuff altogether that&#8217;s big\u00a0<br \/>\nbecause he didn&#8217;t like it yeah but I think people miss that side of him but he did that because he\u00a0<br \/>\nknows he&#8217;s going to be playing in the field with\u00a0\u00a0 these people now and he cares more about that and\u00a0<br \/>\nlike that&#8217;s where his heart&#8217;s at and so I get it like it would be [\u00a0__\u00a0] awkward hey good to see\u00a0<br \/>\nyou oh I totally like ripped you apart didn&#8217;t I i also I I would play devil&#8217;s advocate that like\u00a0<br \/>\nhe&#8217;s making films so he knows how hard it is so\u00a0\u00a0 it doesn&#8217;t I mean it I I&#8217;ve been an actor i don&#8217;t\u00a0<br \/>\nlike critiquing actors so like I I&#8217;m never in a position of like I could do it better i&#8217;d rather\u00a0<br \/>\nlike not talk about it if I don&#8217;t like it yeah\u00a0\u00a0 oh yeah i mean there&#8217;s there&#8217;s like different\u00a0<br \/>\nopinions when you start to really see how it&#8217;s done or get involved yourself where that sense of\u00a0<br \/>\nentitlement of how things should be done making a\u00a0\u00a0 movie is a miracle every time so once you start\u00a0<br \/>\ndoing it you realize then you don&#8217;t want to talk crap about the ones that happen to exist so I\u00a0<br \/>\njust want to say congrats to Chris Steman that&#8217;s\u00a0\u00a0 amazing i would like to get an interview with\u00a0<br \/>\nhim actually that&#8217;d be fun to have on god damn it Chris tory Jerry oh perfect question for Ky uh\u00a0<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve just now been starting to get into DC since the new Superman is coming out i&#8217;ve seen a few\u00a0<br \/>\nmovies Wonder Woman the Batman but none more than\u00a0\u00a0 that what would you recommend I watch in order for\u00a0<br \/>\npreparation for Superman or to watch in general as I begin my DC journey uh watch uh I would say the\u00a0<br \/>\nChris Nolan Batman films are pretty exceptional uh I would watch I I really liked the Suicide Squad\u00a0<br \/>\nuh if you want to watch stuff that is in Superman tone Superman the animated series is pretty slept\u00a0<br \/>\non i&#8217;m a big Smallville fan uh I know the rest\u00a0\u00a0 of the cast has referenced Smallville as their\u00a0<br \/>\ninspirations as well so I would say Smallville is probably tonally pretty similar uh I think\u00a0<br \/>\nthe best Lex Luthther we&#8217;ve ever had is Michael\u00a0\u00a0 Rosenbomb which is Smallville&#8217;s so if you&#8217;ve\u00a0<br \/>\ngot time Smallville is pretty dope uh I&#8217;d read uh um Superman for All Seasons i would read\u00a0<br \/>\nSuperman Birthright i would read um Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow i would read\u00a0<br \/>\nAllstar Superman which James Gunn has referenced\u00a0\u00a0 in his imagery and I would uh one last wreck one\u00a0<br \/>\nlast wreck um something weird i would read Animal Man it&#8217;s one of the best comics in modern comics\u00a0<br \/>\nand it&#8217;s so out there that it might lead you to other weird comics 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the ad changes so I I&#8217;m\u00a0<br \/>\na smaller channel on my personal page I&#8217;ve I&#8217;m down like three4s almost that&#8217;s why we really\u00a0<br \/>\nappreciate the page we always have and Patreon saved us when it was even worse it was when it\u00a0<br \/>\nwas harder um and you guys have stuck around for\u00a0\u00a0 so long and we really appreciate that but yeah\u00a0<br \/>\nlike it it doesn&#8217;t go unnoticed so I&#8217;m really grateful for that i I know what it&#8217;s like when\u00a0<br \/>\nyou like our our main tier is $5 and and I know what it&#8217;s like when $5 is everything and I will\u00a0<br \/>\nnever forget a situation like that so as much as $5 like it&#8217;s easy to disregard like it&#8217;s just five\u00a0<br \/>\nbucks you know maybe that&#8217;s an easier way to sell\u00a0\u00a0 people on a Patreon actually maybe it&#8217;s a smarter\u00a0<br \/>\nbusiness thing uh but for those who do contribute um starting at that tier thank you that&#8217;s what I\u00a0<br \/>\nwant to say thank you we did it we did it go holy [\u00a0__\u00a0] we did it animated length movie done did\u00a0<br \/>\nit that&#8217;s a lot of different stories 21 episodes and on a live stream this would take three hours\u00a0<br \/>\noh 100% we would not have gotten here not in this\u00a0\u00a0 uh but next week we&#8217;re going to do a live stream\u00a0<br \/>\nkeep a lookout for that uh we&#8217;re aiming for 12:00 p.m pst and uh I hope to see you guys zer Koy\u00a0<br \/>\nthanks for being here john thanks for holding the fort down ner Chronic thanks for editing\u00a0<br \/>\nthis peace out people wow jim carry it [Music]<br \/>\n<br \/>\nSO MUCH TO BREAK DOWN!! 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